Logs: freenode/#haskell
| 2020-11-24 21:35:48 | <aredirect> | but all my automation scripts work by default on the system installation outside of the venv |
| 2020-11-24 21:35:51 | <DigitalKiwi> | glguy: base64-bytestring >=1.0.0.1 && <1.1 on irc-core |
| 2020-11-24 21:35:57 | <maerwald> | aredirect: you can set GHCUP_INSTALL_BASE_PREFIX=/var/local for example, then it will install into /var/local/.ghcup |
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| 2020-11-24 21:36:05 | <maerwald> | but it's up to you how you deal with file permissions |
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| 2020-11-24 21:36:33 | <aredirect> | maerwald, ah don't want to ruin that i wish there was a minimal way |
| 2020-11-24 21:36:52 | <aredirect> | probably can be fine with stack if it stops downloading the world and using my disk space? |
| 2020-11-24 21:37:13 | <DigitalKiwi> | it's possible there are others too maybe i'm not sure but that might be it and the happy 1.2 |
| 2020-11-24 21:37:35 | <maerwald> | aredirect: that is quite a minimal way, no? :p |
| 2020-11-24 21:37:43 | <glguy> | Oh, I regularly run 'cabal outdated' but that wasn't checking my libraries, just the top-level client |
| 2020-11-24 21:37:52 | <aredirect> | and can have a stack project called globalhs on my system and be done with it but i'd want that data downloaded to be cached and reused in every new project |
| 2020-11-24 21:38:58 | <maerwald> | eh? |
| 2020-11-24 21:39:27 | <maerwald> | both stack and cabal share installed libs across projects |
| 2020-11-24 21:39:44 | <aredirect> | hmm why then stack keeps redownloading ghc over and over? |
| 2020-11-24 21:39:50 | <maerwald> | yeah... xD |
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| 2020-11-24 21:40:01 | <maerwald> | -> cabal |
| 2020-11-24 21:40:04 | <koz_> | aredirect: Because the GHC version depends on the resolver. |
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| 2020-11-24 21:40:10 | <DigitalKiwi> | glguy: this is the one we have right nowcopying path '/nix/store/l6rch8hzai15wwcacwcj2bscqcfpcqxh-base64-bytestring-1.1.0.0' from 'https://cache.nixos.org'... |
| 2020-11-24 21:40:31 | <aredirect> | is there a way to have that pinned koz_ for all of the projects? |
| 2020-11-24 21:40:31 | <maerwald> | koz_: which is sad, because you can just lift that restriction and stuff still works |
| 2020-11-24 21:40:41 | <koz_> | maerwald: Except when it doesn't. |
| 2020-11-24 21:40:49 | <koz_> | aredirect: Always set the same resolver in your stack.yamls. |
| 2020-11-24 21:40:56 | <koz_> | There may be soem kind of config as well, I dunno. |
| 2020-11-24 21:41:02 | <koz_> | Stack is documented like a saddle fits a cow. |
| 2020-11-24 21:41:34 | <maerwald> | right, only for cowboys |
| 2020-11-24 21:41:52 | <aredirect> | i was quitefond of haskell platform but i saw warning somewhere |
| 2020-11-24 21:42:02 | <aredirect> | and the main website just confuses the hell out of me |
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| 2020-11-24 21:42:15 | <maerwald> | there is no haskell platfrom anymore really, except some distros have packages with that name |
| 2020-11-24 21:42:25 | <glguy> | DigitalKiwi: supporting the older random needed a code change, so that won't go out until next release |
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| 2020-11-24 21:42:48 | <dsal> | texasmynsted: google app engine deprecated my build and shut it off. I've got around to writing a new web server. |
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| 2020-11-24 21:43:00 | <aredirect> | maerwald, did you see this page? https://www.haskell.org/downloads/ |
| 2020-11-24 21:43:15 | <aredirect> | i swear i saw ghcup once on the website before :D |
| 2020-11-24 21:43:32 | <maerwald> | aredirect: yeah, it's a never ending topic |
| 2020-11-24 21:43:59 | <aredirect> | koz_, per project or globally? i don't want to keep track of which resolver i don't even know features after ghc 2010 i guess that was sthe version i used |
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| 2020-11-24 21:44:12 | <koz_> | aredirect: 'GHC 2010' is not a thing. |
| 2020-11-24 21:44:14 | <koz_> | are |
| 2020-11-24 21:44:32 | <koz_> | aredirect: stack.yaml is per-project. There may or may not be some global thing stack uses. |
| 2020-11-24 21:44:40 | koz_ | points to his comment regarding how Stack is documented. |
| 2020-11-24 21:44:53 | <maerwald> | aredirect: https://github.com/haskell-infra/www.haskell.org/issues/12 https://github.com/haskell-infra/www.haskell.org/issues/21 |
| 2020-11-24 21:45:11 | <aredirect> | ah haskell 2010 koz_ my bad |
| 2020-11-24 21:45:12 | <maerwald> | (and some more) |
| 2020-11-24 21:45:23 | <koz_> | aredirect: Every version of GHC supports Haskell2010. |
| 2020-11-24 21:45:38 | <koz_> | (well, every version you should even remotely consider using) |
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| 2020-11-24 21:46:34 | <aredirect> | koz_, ah for sure i think i used to use hugs at certain point |
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| 2020-11-24 21:46:59 | <koz_> | aredirect: In that case, just pick a version and go. |
| 2020-11-24 21:47:01 | <aredirect> | maerwald, indeed that page is confusing |
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| 2020-11-24 21:47:17 | <koz_> | I _think_ LTSes for Stack only go as high as 8.8 for now? |
| 2020-11-24 21:47:21 | <triteraflops> | wait, clean isn't lazy, is it? |
| 2020-11-24 21:47:29 | <DigitalKiwi> | glguy: D: |
| 2020-11-24 21:47:40 | <triteraflops> | maybe that's how it gets away with using uniqueness types to do IO |
| 2020-11-24 21:47:42 | <aredirect> | koz_, yeah i'd have to check a version and see how to use it everywhere :( |
| 2020-11-24 21:47:53 | <DigitalKiwi> | glguy: ty, i'll put that comment in then and should appease the reviewer :D |
| 2020-11-24 21:47:55 | <aredirect> | but all of this is just too much even for someone who used haskell in the past :( |
| 2020-11-24 21:48:16 | <koz_> | aredirect: Tools require learning. That's pretty universal IMHO. |
| 2020-11-24 21:48:17 | <aredirect> | guess I can explain monads easier than explaining the download page |
| 2020-11-24 21:48:42 | <koz_> | *insert obligatory statement about monoids in the category of endofunctors* |
| 2020-11-24 21:48:50 | <koz_> | *insert obligatory inquiry about what the problem is* |
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| 2020-11-24 21:49:09 | <aredirect> | koz_, sure as long as you have a clear path that's not confusing for these tooling not 4 different paths |
| 2020-11-24 21:49:20 | <aredirect> | koz_, hehe it'll never get old :D |
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| 2020-11-24 21:51:38 | <maerwald> | aredirect: feel free to comment on those issues |
| 2020-11-24 21:52:07 | <maerwald> | the infra part is a bit more bureaucratic though, I guess |
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| 2020-11-24 21:52:22 | <maerwald> | we can't have anarchy there either, obviously |
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| 2020-11-24 21:53:05 | <aredirect> | maerwald, probably we need cargo there :D |
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