Logs: freenode/#haskell
| 2021-03-03 16:40:11 | <Philonous> | merijn, Yeah, noticed right after I wrote it, sorry :> |
| 2021-03-03 16:40:18 | <monochrom> | ezzieyguywuf: You cannot. |
| 2021-03-03 16:40:32 | <ezzieyguywuf> | monochrom: is there a particular reason why? |
| 2021-03-03 16:40:49 | <ezzieyguywuf> | I thought cabal, like, fixed all there dependency conflict issues by just storing things in separate sub directories |
| 2021-03-03 16:40:59 | <merijn> | ezzieyguywuf: Well, what would that even mean? |
| 2021-03-03 16:41:10 | <edwardk> | "free to a good home" |
| 2021-03-03 16:41:11 | <monochrom> | Hrm, I don't know the old-random flag. But I still guess it means going with an old version of random. |
| 2021-03-03 16:41:20 | <newbie76> | merijn thanks for the help, getting further along now |
| 2021-03-03 16:41:23 | <merijn> | ezzieyguywuf: v2-build does, Setup.hs as used to package distro packages does not |
| 2021-03-03 16:41:34 | <ezzieyguywuf> | merijn: yea, b/c random-1.2.0 has breaking changes, and so I may have some deps that haven't upgraded to the new random yet |
| 2021-03-03 16:41:41 | <merijn> | ezzieyguywuf: Distro packages are installed in a single global database and all need to be compatible |
| 2021-03-03 16:41:44 | <ezzieyguywuf> | so I could realistically need both old random and new random |
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| 2021-03-03 16:41:57 | <monochrom> | I think 1.2's "break" changes are mild. |
| 2021-03-03 16:42:01 | <merijn> | ezzieyguywuf: v2-build installs all of them and kinda "dynamically creates a per project database" |
| 2021-03-03 16:42:08 | <ezzieyguywuf> | merijn: I'm trying this with cabal itself at the moment, not any packaging stuff |
| 2021-03-03 16:42:19 | <__minoru__shirae> | edwardk: is monoidal io a thing? |
| 2021-03-03 16:42:29 | <__minoru__shirae> | I mean using IO as a monoid? |
| 2021-03-03 16:42:40 | <merijn> | ezzieyguywuf: "cabal install --lib" registers stuff in an (implicit) global database |
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| 2021-03-03 16:42:55 | <merijn> | ezzieyguywuf: So the solution is, don't use "install --lib" ;) |
| 2021-03-03 16:43:00 | <ezzieyguywuf> | lol!!! |
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| 2021-03-03 16:43:02 | <monochrom> | But generally it doesn't make sense for one build of QuickCheck (or one build of any library or exe) to use two builds of something. |
| 2021-03-03 16:43:16 | <edwardk> | __minoru__shirae: instance Monoid a => Monoid (IO a) exists |
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| 2021-03-03 16:43:19 | <ezzieyguywuf> | hm, let me try to work up an example using only cabal |
| 2021-03-03 16:43:23 | <monochrom> | And note that I use the word "build". Not even "version". More anal than "version". |
| 2021-03-03 16:43:28 | <ezzieyguywuf> | to see if I can duplicate the use-case I'm running in to in gentoo |
| 2021-03-03 16:43:32 | <merijn> | ezzieyguywuf: Generally you just let "cabal build" in your project install things |
| 2021-03-03 16:43:36 | <ezzieyguywuf> | b/c I bet cabal "Just Works™" , but I want to know how |
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| 2021-03-03 16:44:07 | <edwardk> | __minoru__shirae: but it was acquired mostly as a '.io' as a trendy '.com' equivalent domain thing back when .io was a trendy .com equivalent. |
| 2021-03-03 16:44:48 | <merijn> | edwardk: Unrelatedly, I'd probably recommend migrating domains to a less terrible registrar if possible >.> |
| 2021-03-03 16:44:59 | <edwardk> | merijn: i already did for everything that mattered. |
| 2021-03-03 16:45:08 | <merijn> | edwardk: Good :) |
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| 2021-03-03 16:45:45 | <ezzieyguywuf> | namesilo |
| 2021-03-03 16:46:03 | <edwardk> | i only looked at my godaddy account when someone snuck into my account and tried to transfer a gajillion domains out of it. it was painful enough to get things back that i'm in the process of just closing out the godaddy account, hence the 'free to a good home' bit for anything that seems someone might find it worth having, but not worth going through the trouble of moving for myself. =) |
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| 2021-03-03 16:47:02 | <edwardk> | apparently godaddy requires email approval to transfer out a domain, which is the way i recalled it. However they _don't_ require email approval to add an extra delegated approved email user... who can then approve all the transfers. |
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| 2021-03-03 16:47:35 | <edwardk> | (the account was set up in the time before 2fa was a thing, and apparently the password leaked by the same channel as my twitter account did, as both predated my use of a password manager) |
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| 2021-03-03 16:48:02 | <edwardk> | ezzieyguywuf: i mostly use namecheap, which is where comonad.com is parked. |
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| 2021-03-03 16:48:17 | <edwardk> | its meh, but its also already configured and forgotten ;) |
| 2021-03-03 16:49:12 | <ezzieyguywuf> | nice |
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| 2021-03-03 16:50:12 | <ezzieyguywuf> | (omg kmett spoke directly to me!!) |
| 2021-03-03 16:50:12 | ezzieyguywuf | 's heart is all aflutter |
| 2021-03-03 16:50:15 | <edwardk> | at one point i had something like 1000 domains, then godaddy all-but-silently let them all lapse because of an expired credit card, so they were already on my terrible vendor list. |
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| 2021-03-03 16:51:19 | <Philonous> | 1000 domains, is squatting that profitable? |
| 2021-03-03 16:51:21 | edwardk | gets back on topic for the channel. |
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| 2021-03-03 16:51:47 | <edwardk> | Philonous: i wound up pretty far in the black. mainly because i got in when you could still get 3 letter domains, etc. |
| 2021-03-03 16:51:47 | <__minoru__shirae> | edwardk: 1000 domains? you don't pay for a domain every year? |
| 2021-03-03 16:52:29 | <edwardk> | i basically ran a dictionary through whois in 1995 or so and grabbed everything worth grabbing that i found. |
| 2021-03-03 16:54:28 | <edwardk> | __minoru__shirae: A friend and I sold crucial.com for ~35k, which basically kept everything in the black ever since in total dollars. i'd let them bleed out slowly til around 2010 when i lost most of them in the aforementioned godaddy incident. So yeah, they'd bleed a bit of money every year, but in total? No problem. |
| 2021-03-03 16:56:08 | <Philonous> | I think I pay like 15€pa. per domain, so 1k domains over 15 years would have amounted to, what, 225k€? Your registrar must have been much cheaper |
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| 2021-03-03 16:56:58 | <edwardk> | Philonous: that wasn't the only one that sold =) |
| 2021-03-03 16:57:07 | <Philonous> | Or you made a lot more than 35k in the nickle-and-dime domains |
| 2021-03-03 16:57:08 | <Philonous> | Yeah |
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| 2021-03-03 16:57:47 | <edwardk> | and I bled the list down, etc. |
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| 2021-03-03 16:59:45 | <falsifian> | Does anyone know a way to get Cabal to output the time used to build each dependency when I run cabal build or cabal install? Start/end times for a parallel build would be even better. |
| 2021-03-03 17:00:34 | <edwardk> | all right, since there's no nibbles here, will try twitter. more math folks there =) |
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