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2022-12-15 15:33:13 <geekosaur> I hook X session startup to set my PATH and a few other things there (/etc/X11/Xsession.d/10profile)
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2022-12-15 17:47:43 <thyriaen> geekosaur, how do i patch kde ?
2022-12-15 17:48:55 <thyriaen> i mean which komponent and how to do it ? ( but otherwise i can use my normal xmonad config or should i start fresh ? )
2022-12-15 17:55:21 <geekosaur> you probably want to talk to HB[m]; all I know about it is https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad/issues/174
2022-12-15 17:55:51 <geekosaur> I haven't used KDE with xmonad in some 10 years (KDE3 was the latest version back then 🙂
2022-12-15 18:02:57 <thyriaen> oki thanks
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2022-12-15 18:32:57 <HB[m]> let me know which versino of kubuntu you're using and I can even build the packages for you for amd64
2022-12-15 18:33:09 <HB[m]> But first try the instructions in the link from geekosaur
2022-12-15 18:38:24 <thyriaen> HB[m], you mean https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad/issues/174 ?
2022-12-15 18:38:37 <HB[m]> 👍️
2022-12-15 18:39:08 <HB[m]> https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad/issues/174#issuecomment-1118020397 Directions are in this post.
2022-12-15 18:39:13 <HB[m]> It's not trivial to do this if you're new/noob.
2022-12-15 18:39:40 <HB[m]> Which version of Kubuntu will you use? 22.04? Or 22.10?
2022-12-15 18:39:50 <HB[m]> https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad/issues/174#issuecomment-1118020397 Use this for 22.04
2022-12-15 18:39:53 <thyriaen> provided by fedora 37
2022-12-15 18:39:57 <HB[m]> * https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad/issues/174#issuecomment-1118020397 Use this for 22.04
2022-12-15 18:39:57 <HB[m]> LTS
2022-12-15 18:40:59 <HB[m]> I can't build packages
2022-12-15 18:41:00 <HB[m]> \ for Fedora 37 as I don't use it. Follow their dolcs on how to modify package source and rebuild, and use my patch for the proper version of plasma.
2022-12-15 18:41:04 <thyriaen> is there no repository with binary packages provided for xmonad ? or is kde simply not supported ?
2022-12-15 18:41:18 <HB[m]> KDE is supported by Xmonad
2022-12-15 18:41:25 <HB[m]> Xmonad is not supported by KDE
2022-12-15 18:41:28 <thyriaen> :p
2022-12-15 18:41:31 <thyriaen> i understand
2022-12-15 18:41:33 <HB[m]> KDE devs don't care about us ☹️
2022-12-15 18:41:51 <thyriaen> which is good for me
2022-12-15 18:42:03 <thyriaen> as i will not attempt to switch from xmonad to kde+xmonad :p
2022-12-15 18:42:08 <HB[m]> s/\//
2022-12-15 18:42:11 <HB[m]> s/\//, s/dolcs/docs/
2022-12-15 18:42:48 <HB[m]> I only use KDE panel with Xmonad, and some KDE apps as I dislike GTK and try to avoid it.
2022-12-15 18:42:49 <thyriaen> i think it will be too much of a headache to change source and rebuild
2022-12-15 18:43:11 <thyriaen> and stuff will break / when i upgrade and so on
2022-12-15 18:44:55 <HB[m]> 1) Get RPM plasma-framework package source in Fedora
2022-12-15 18:44:55 <HB[m]> 2) Edit source (apply my patch)
2022-12-15 18:44:55 <HB[m]> 3) Build package
2022-12-15 18:44:55 <HB[m]> https://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/RebuildSRPM if interested also ask in #fedora on Matrox/IRC
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2022-12-15 19:21:08 <thyriaen> HB[m], is noone maintaining a prepacked prebuild for the likes of me who are too lazy to do it ?
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2022-12-15 21:35:40 <qroolen> someone can point what i am doing wrong by trying to spawn an application at N workspace? https://bit.ly/3FyLOaV
2022-12-15 21:35:57 <qroolen> it always starts on the focused workspace :|
2022-12-15 21:36:35 <qroolen> line 16 and 19 my logic is
2022-12-15 21:42:50 <geekosaur> does the splash window show up on the correct workspace? I suspect it's the one that manageSpawn is handling
2022-12-15 21:43:26 <geekosaur> alos, the way you wrote that, the setDefaultCursor is being overwritten; you should use <> instead of a second record update
2022-12-15 21:43:38 <geekosaur> (but that's mostly unrelated)
2022-12-15 21:44:42 <geekosaur> try running `"gimp --no-splash"`, in short
2022-12-15 21:47:09 <qroolen> <3
2022-12-15 21:47:19 <qroolen> --no-splash made it work, thanks
2022-12-15 21:47:48 <qroolen> and what do you mean using <> on setDefaultCursor?
2022-12-15 21:47:53 <geekosaur> xmonad isn't magic;p the splash screen gets moved, then manageSpawn forgets about it and won't move the real window
2022-12-15 21:48:08 <geekosaur> look at line 15 vs. line 19
2022-12-15 21:48:58 <geekosaur> first you set `startupHook` to `setDefaultCursor xC_cross`, then you overwrite it with `spawnOn "7" "gimp"`
2022-12-15 21:50:00 <geekosaur> if you want it to do both, remove lines 18-20 and change line 15 to: ` , startupHook = setDefaultCursor xC_cross <> spawnOn "7" "gimp --no-splash"`
2022-12-15 21:52:33 <qroolen> super! thanks for that
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2022-12-15 22:05:17 <qroolen> there is something that i can use to start an app when i focus on a workspace?
2022-12-15 22:07:29 <geekosaur> https://hackage.haskell.org/package/xmonad-contrib-0.17.1/docs/XMonad-Actions-DynamicProjects.html or https://hackage.haskell.org/package/xmonad-contrib-0.17.1/docs/XMonad-Actions-TopicSpace.html
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2022-12-15 22:24:32 <qroolen> :)
2022-12-15 23:34:58 <HB[m]> I'll try to install a fedora 37 VM and see if I can build the package for you.
2022-12-15 23:47:14 <qroolen> me?
2022-12-15 23:48:09 <qroolen> idk how long i last on IRC without being disconnected, but if it is for me, just do not bother ;]
2022-12-15 23:48:17 <geekosaur> thyriaen, who seems to have left
2022-12-15 23:48:41 <qroolen> ah ok :D
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2022-12-16 00:32:52 <HB[m]> Well then never mind.
2022-12-16 00:49:39 <HB[m]> Actually it's not bad. Gives me a chance to check out Fedora
2022-12-16 00:51:13 <geekosaur> you can use the bot to leave messages for people
2022-12-16 00:51:24 <geekosaur> @tell HB[m] example
2022-12-16 00:51:24 <lambdabot> Consider it noted.
2022-12-16 00:51:51 <geekosaur> next time you say something it'll tell you that you have a message and how to retrieve it
2022-12-16 01:19:34 <HB[m]> So I should leave a message for the guy?
2022-12-16 01:19:45 <HB[m]> * the guy? I see. Kind of.
2022-12-16 01:20:31 <HB[m]> Building in fedora isn't as straightforward, needs a tutorial, but can be done. My first time using it but patch works there too on plasma 101.x etc.
2022-12-16 01:22:13 <HB[m]> lambdabot (@lambdabot:libera.chat) wants to chat geekosaur Does this mean I have to connect to IRC?
2022-12-16 01:22:34 <geekosaur> no, that's how a PM shows up matrix-side
2022-12-16 01:22:40 <HB[m]> I basically have left IRC and will not connect to libera.chat
2022-12-16 01:22:42 <HB[m]> Ok thanks
2022-12-16 01:23:02 <geekosaur> matrix PMs show up the same way
2022-12-16 01:23:47 <HB[m]> Useful. Thank you.
2022-12-16 01:30:51 <HB[m]> https://i.imgur.com/pED677z.png Just installed xmonad .17 on fedora 37 latest and patched plasma-framework and kde menus/panels working there too now.
2022-12-16 01:36:26 HB[m] sent a code block: https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/libera.chat/dba0ea1dc6ba49e8a873a68b5be43487557ff548

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