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2022-12-18 23:19:25 <LemanR> hey all, so  I want to use the import function from imagemagick binded to M-Ctrl-Print. However the function requires naming a file such as 'import picture-name.png". My question is that is there some way in my xmonad config to say something like spawn import but ask me for additional arguments in some prompt?
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2022-12-18 23:19:54 <LemanR> just found https://stackoverflow.com/questions/30575941/passing-environment-variables-to-xmonad-spawn
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2022-12-18 23:22:57 <LemanR> that was useful but not what I was looking for lol
2022-12-18 23:23:27 <geekosaur> unclear what exactly you want. if you are looking to prompt for a filename and spawn a program passing it as a parameter, https://hackage.haskell.org/package/xmonad-contrib-0.17.1/docs/XMonad-Prompt-AppLauncher.html
2022-12-18 23:31:51 <LemanR> exactly although I'm messing up the syntax, but thanks for getting me in the right path. When it comes to really technical documentation I tend to get lost but that's something I just have to get used to.
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2022-12-18 23:37:32 <LemanR> Yay I did it :p, funny thing is, on my first attempt I thought the computer froze. As it turns out the prompt is just really thin on the bottom of the screen which is actually perfect.
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2022-12-18 23:48:15 <LemanR> btw I love how the default allows for tab auto completion. Visually having the entire file path is unappealing to the eyes, but I'm assuming that I could pipe this to something in which case having the entire file-path is useful so overall a feature.
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2022-12-19 00:28:59 <Guest4> I've got a question about modifying the list of workspaces in the `XMonad.config` (not the current StackSet)
2022-12-19 00:29:35 <Guest4> So this lets me query the list of WorkspaceIds in the config:
2022-12-19 00:29:35 <Guest4> ```
2022-12-19 00:29:36 <Guest4> workspacesInConfig :: X [WorkspaceId]
2022-12-19 00:29:36 <Guest4> workspacesInConfig = asks (XMonad.workspaces . XMonad.config)
2022-12-19 00:29:37 <Guest4> ```
2022-12-19 00:30:55 <Guest4> What is the idiomatic analogue of this for modification?
2022-12-19 00:31:41 <geekosaur> you can't modify it; it's read-only
2022-12-19 00:33:03 <geekosaur> you can modify the workspaces in the StackSet, but you need some way to access them afterward because you can't rebind the keys that were defined using the read-only list of workspaces
2022-12-19 00:33:24 <Guest4> That makes sense
2022-12-19 00:33:47 <Guest4> related question
2022-12-19 00:34:50 <Guest4> well, really just a rephrasing of my question to make sure it's clear
2022-12-19 00:35:01 <Guest4> is there a way of essentially updating (in a normal functional way = generating a new modified value) the config with a modified list of workspaces?
2022-12-19 00:36:31 <Guest4> The context for asking is that I'm trying to simultaneously use `XMonad.Actions.TreeSelect` and functions that rename/add to/remove from the workspaces in the StackSet
2022-12-19 00:38:30 <geekosaur> do you know what the Reader monad is?
2022-12-19 00:38:33 <Guest4> Yes
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2022-12-19 00:39:42 <Guest4> So basically you're telling me that the relevant value I'm asking about is never meant to modified after initialization
2022-12-19 00:39:42 <geekosaur> the XMonad configuration is stored in a Reader, so it can be accessed but not modified. there are no tricks to get around this, and everything else assumes this so won't look for changes anyway
2022-12-19 00:39:49 <geekosaur> correct
2022-12-19 00:39:52 <Guest4> Yeah ok
2022-12-19 00:40:34 <Guest4> Alright
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2022-12-19 00:42:06 <Guest4> So I'm currently trying to accomplish my goal by using `XMonad.Util.ExtensibleState` to create a `TreeZipper WorkspaceId` that essentially parallels some of the information in the `StackSet`
2022-12-19 00:42:19 <geekosaur> right. the list of workspaces in particular is there only for reference; the "live" version is the StackSet
2022-12-19 00:43:21 <Guest4> yeah - and a lot of code is written in a way that grabs information from the static, totally ordered list of workspaces from the initial config rather than the StackSet
2022-12-19 00:43:28 <Guest4> which I understand why
2022-12-19 00:44:29 <Guest4> but I've written a bunch of tweaked versions of operations for navigating/updating workspaces that update the treezipper state appropriately
2022-12-19 00:44:33 <geekosaur> one reason for that is it gives you the possibility for "hidden" workspaces, which for example NamedScratchpads uses to put hidden scratchpads in an "NSP" workspace
2022-12-19 00:45:19 <Guest4> and nevertheless I keep finding situations where there are calls that cause the current workspace to change that I didn't anticipate
2022-12-19 00:45:34 <Guest4> and then the TreeZipper and the StackSet end up unsynced
2022-12-19 00:45:59 <Guest4> (I have a keybinding to manually update the TreeZipper, but this is Not Ideal)
2022-12-19 00:46:08 <geekosaur> you could probably stick something to resync them in logHook
2022-12-19 00:46:24 <Guest4> that is exactly what I was hoping someone would say!
2022-12-19 00:48:37 <Guest4> I am having trouble figuring out how exactly to use logHook, however
2022-12-19 00:48:55 <Guest4> Like - when is whatever's in the logHook run?
2022-12-19 00:49:07 <Guest4> what is the type of information that is available?
2022-12-19 00:49:26 <geekosaur> it's the last step of XMonad.Operations.windows, which is the master function that handles all focus, workspace, etc. changes
2022-12-19 00:50:16 <geekosaur> it is not passed anything explicitly but it can access the StackSet (`gets windowset`) so you can see what workspace is current and adjust your TreeZipper as needed
2022-12-19 00:51:24 <geekosaur> since it's in X, all read-only (asks) and mutable (gets) state is available to it
2022-12-19 00:54:07 <geekosaur> the only restriction is that, since it's run in X.O.windows, you can't run X.O.windows from it without causing an infinite loop
2022-12-19 00:54:35 <geekosaur> (unless you are very careful to avoid such loop)
2022-12-19 00:55:54 <Guest4> that makes sense
2022-12-19 00:56:05 <Guest4> that's very helpful, thank you!
2022-12-19 00:58:52 <geekosaur> if you need a pointer to the exact state information, X is StateT XState (ReaderT XConf IO). XState and XConf are defined in XMonad.Core.

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