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2022-07-06 16:52:39 <liskin> Well it's an opportunity to write an announcement so that people know we're still alive and working on stuff :-)
2022-07-06 16:53:03 <liskin> Some of us at least
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2022-07-06 22:32:50 <craige[m]> <geekosaur> "not like someone's pointing a..." <- NixOS has picked it up 😃
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2022-07-06 22:42:58 <liskin> and opensuse, and most of the bsds
2022-07-06 22:44:59 <liskin> would probably be fair to build test some of the BSDs in CI
2022-07-06 22:45:22 <liskin> but that wouldn't catch any bugs like if we ever decide to touch SIGCHLD handling or something :-/
2022-07-06 22:45:49 <liskin> anyway, low prio, need to sleep, only 6 hours remaining until I need to get up and cycle 40k to London :-)
2022-07-06 22:46:17 <geekosaur> mm, was wondering, should we put an impossible constraint on impl(ghc >= 9.0 && < 9.4)?
2022-07-06 22:46:27 <geekosaur> due to the join point bug?
2022-07-06 22:46:53 <liskin> (and possibly 60k if the train company decides to keep the pre-covid rule of not taking bikes during peak times)
2022-07-06 22:47:48 <liskin> geekosaur: probably not as that would exclude point releases as well
2022-07-06 22:48:15 <liskin> maybe an #if #warning might be helpful though
2022-07-06 22:48:44 <liskin> but then… why isn't like everybody hitting the bug? do most people run ghc 8.* ?
2022-07-06 22:49:05 <liskin> (I do, but I'm on Debian, which has been late even when it had people maintaining this stuff… :-))
2022-07-06 22:49:09 <geekosaur> 8.10.7 is still the most used version, yes. and it only shows with specific kinds of join points
2022-07-06 22:49:28 <geekosaur> specifically how we do this long running FFI inside a forever
2022-07-06 22:50:00 <liskin> can we perhaps write a version of forever that doesn't trigger the bug?
2022-07-06 22:50:29 <geekosaur> which confuses codegen into thinking it's unreachable in some fashion, so it drops the keepAlive# and the next gc removes the allocaEvent and the heap subsequently gets smashed
2022-07-06 22:50:47 <geekosaur> I was thinking just recursively reinvoke the function
2022-07-06 22:50:59 <geekosaur> instead of ending it with a forever
2022-07-06 22:52:30 <liskin> or that, whatever works, is obviously correct and is easy to revert
2022-07-06 22:53:41 <liskin> anyway, afk for real
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2022-07-06 22:57:13 <kaskal-> Hi! I wanted to share my xmonad configuraiton, it has keybindings like emacs to enter modes (GUI-C GUI-S) enters screenshot mode, or (GUI-C GUI-M) enters mpd controler mode https://github.com/alejandrogallo/xmonad-config
2022-07-06 22:57:27 <kaskal-> Maybe it is useful for someone
2022-07-06 23:06:45 <geekosaur> we really need to bring back the config gallery at some point
2022-07-06 23:06:51 <geekosaur> the current one's way bitrotted
2022-07-06 23:35:28 <geekosaur> not as easy as I had hoped, sadly. showoffy code means pain later…
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2022-07-07 06:40:55 <valarMorghulis[m> I was trying to implement top bar in xmonad to show active window instead of the boarder. If I user `noFillsDeco` the problem is that it's not smart even if there is just one window it shows the top bar, therefore I got a code snippet for smart top bar from reddit and I'm using it. It works well but when I try to... (full message at https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/libera.chat/ca97236c24e423bbafe125e2d0017755dcbbe492)
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2022-07-07 06:42:59 <valarMorghulis[m> The first screenshot is with smart bar and thats the issue I'm talking about, and the second screenshot is with `noFrillsdeco` and thats the desired output
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2022-07-07 09:08:59 <liskin> geekosaur: perhaps there's a way to make the gallery self-maintaining…
2022-07-07 09:10:08 <liskin> what comes to mind is some kind of modern shit like yaml with links to people's dotfiles repos with some metadata like description and where's the screenshot located, and a github action that updates it at regular intervals
2022-07-07 09:10:38 <liskin> it'd be deepening our dependency on github though
2022-07-07 09:10:51 <liskin> quite far down that road anyway, I guess.
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2022-07-07 11:06:04 <kaskal-> We could also do a repo with a makefile per configuration that fetches the stuff from a user-provided repo every week and commits everything altogether in this single repo. That way we are not dependent if the original user removes the original repo and everything would be self-contained in this single repo. Musts are a Makefile with couple of
2022-07-07 11:06:05 <kaskal-> variables and a README file. And of course the license of the configuration
2022-07-07 11:07:20 <kaskal-> and if the service provides like easy enough CI or free, then you can do the building everytime it gets updated, like in mine
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2022-07-07 12:11:33 <liskin> Good point that we don't really need to depend on that much GH-Action-y stuff
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2022-07-07 13:15:49 <kaskal-> if it's there, we can use it, but otherwise, nowadays having a simple shell.nix file like in https://github.com/alejandrogallo/xmonad-config/blob/master/shell.nix is enough to setup most xmonad relevant workflows, as long as the CI supports nix
2022-07-07 13:36:41 <liskin> Every CI supports Nix. In our case, the people would be the bigger problem :-D
2022-07-07 13:38:08 <liskin> (Not being a NixOS user myself and not having a Haskell day job means I haven't learnt Nix yet.)
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2022-07-07 14:05:38 <dminuoso> Be glad. I want my time learning nix/nixos back!

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