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| 2022-04-21 01:58:04 | <abastro> | Is there a way to ask password to change root-owned directories? |
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| 2022-04-21 06:05:40 | <tdammers> | fwiw, JSON is a lousy choice for a human-editable config file format |
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| 2022-04-21 10:01:57 | <abastro[m]> | tdammers: I think so as well. Btw which human-readable config format do you recommend? |
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| 2022-04-21 12:10:23 | <MrElendig> | abastro[m]: sudo/doas |
| 2022-04-21 12:11:46 | <geekosaur> | I'm trying to figure the context. there's no (good/safe) way to integrate sudo functionality into, say, XMonad.Prompt |
| 2022-04-21 12:11:50 | <abastro[m]> | MrElendig: Seems I forgot to include the details. I meant a way to ask for PW and get permission as root from haskell program |
| 2022-04-21 12:12:08 | <abastro[m]> | Oh, this is for installer kind. |
| 2022-04-21 12:12:27 | <geekosaur> | there may be a way provided as part of the OS to pop up a password dialog, but these days I think that's through polkit and you can't easily integrate with that either |
| 2022-04-21 12:13:27 | <abastro[m]> | I guess firing `sudo` would be the best way then? |
| 2022-04-21 12:13:34 | <geekosaur> | generally yes |
| 2022-04-21 12:14:17 | <abastro[m]> | Sad, I don't know how to write to root-owned file |
| 2022-04-21 12:15:12 | <abastro[m]> | I ofc wanted to avoid invoking sudo but installation business seem to involve them in the end. |
| 2022-04-21 12:15:41 | <geekosaur> | if you're installing to system-owned directories then yes |
| 2022-04-21 12:17:47 | <abastro[m]> | Well, dependency programs |
| 2022-04-21 12:25:05 | <abastro[m]> | Oh right, about writing to root-owned file - I wanted to write to usr/share/xsessions to add my sessions |
| 2022-04-21 12:28:26 | <geekosaur> | the cheaty way is sudo tee $filename |
| 2022-04-21 12:28:36 | <geekosaur> | (shell metacharacters don't work with sudo) |
| 2022-04-21 12:29:41 | <geekosaur> | and then pipe your file to it (the password is read from /dev/tty, not stdin) |
| 2022-04-21 12:30:42 | <abastro[m]> | Oh, tee looks useful! |
| 2022-04-21 12:31:16 | <abastro[m]> | Thank you. |
| 2022-04-21 12:33:09 | <abastro[m]> | I don't like how installing dependency programs require root access... tho it would be reckless to not protect those program installations behind root access |
| 2022-04-21 12:34:51 | <geekosaur> | consider that if linux didn;t protect the base system stuff with root access, linux would be even worse than windows with respect to viruses and such |
| 2022-04-21 12:36:27 | <abastro[m]> | Wait, is windows considered more vulnerable than linux? |
| 2022-04-21 12:36:41 | <tdammers> | depends how you use it |
| 2022-04-21 12:36:57 | <abastro[m]> | I thought I only considered my linux safer because I generally am aware of what I am installing and what it does |
| 2022-04-21 12:38:04 | <abastro[m]> | Meanwhile Windows is a corporate solution costing a ton, it should be more preventive towards threats |
| 2022-04-21 12:38:56 | <tdammers> | there's also the thing where the default installation method on GNU/Linux is to download signed binaries from a trusted repository, whereas, at least as far as personal desktop use goes, the default for Windows has been to install unsigned binaries from unverified websites |
| 2022-04-21 12:39:58 | <tdammers> | if you install random crap from random websites on Linux, then that's just as bad as it would be on Windows, the only thing that makes you less likely to be compromised is that Windows is a more common target for such low-hanging-fruit attacks (the "sneakers agains lion attacks" thing) |
| 2022-04-21 12:40:58 | <abastro[m]> | Oh. |
| 2022-04-21 12:41:33 | <abastro[m]> | I guess I should be worried, I added couple of ppas not provided by OS |
| 2022-04-21 12:42:00 | <tdammers> | as long as they come from someone you trust, and you have verified their identity, it should be OK |
| 2022-04-21 12:43:35 | <abastro[m]> | I see.. but I wonder if I can even trust nvidias |
| 2022-04-21 12:43:56 | <abastro[m]> | Necessary to install graphics driver duh |
| 2022-04-21 12:45:10 | <tdammers> | that is of course proprietary code, but at least you still get the same signature checks if you install the nvidia drivers through your package manager |
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