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2022-05-13 12:23:57 <geekosaur> xmonad is certainly a way to become familiar with Haskell, if you so choose
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2022-05-13 18:04:04 <geekosaur> hm. did I just find a bug in our rebuild logic? https://paste.tomsmeding.com/ynU4aOKD
2022-05-13 18:14:13 <geekosaur> bleh, this hunch is harder to test than I thought :(
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2022-05-13 18:32:18 <geekosaur> aha, WindowNavigation also calls setWindowBorderWithFallback. (my hunch is that one of the changes to that broke things, since that's about the only place that calls the X request that the protocol error says is failing)
2022-05-13 18:33:59 <geekosaur> I've locally reverted in the sandbox copy of the xmonad repo and am trying to see if the border issue still occurs
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2022-05-13 18:50:12 <geekosaur> hunch confirmed: borders behave properly if I revert bb448cc and 2021239. not that that can be considered a fix, but it tells us where to look (setWindowBorderWithFallback)
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2022-05-13 18:53:35 <geekosaur> er, 202e239
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2022-05-13 21:11:11 <liskin> geekosaur: re rebuild logic, all three of XMONAD_DATA_DIR, XMONAD_CONFIG_DIR and XMONAD_CACHE_DIR need to be set
2022-05-13 21:21:24 <geekosaur> oh, right
2022-05-13 21:21:42 <geekosaur> I think I only had two set, although I showed only the one relevant
2022-05-13 21:24:43 <geekosaur> Ether[m], you should really subscribe to https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad/issues/395 rather than asking in here periodically
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2022-05-13 23:39:09 <noex> Solid: yeh, been ill lately. getting old sucks lol. for gentoo people, there is a workaround. there is a gentoo-haskell overlay with the latest version: https://github.com/gentoo-haskell/gentoo-haskell
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2022-05-14 00:47:35 <Rotaerk> hmm, I see some full screen related stuff in the xmonad API, or at least xmonad-contrib, but could someone explain or link me to an explanation of the general strategy for using full screen programs like games or videos?
2022-05-14 00:48:32 <Rotaerk> I just tried steam in linux for the first time, and it worked great, but the borders and xmobar are still visible even if the game's in full screen.  same if I'm watching, say, a video stream full screen
2022-05-14 00:51:31 <Rotaerk> hmm wait, the xmonad configuration tutorial mentions it... been a while since I looked at it.  I'll see if that's enough to get me going
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2022-05-14 03:36:35 <Rotaerk> yeah so much has changed since I last messed with configuring xmonad...
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2022-05-14 05:04:07 <Rotaerk> liskin[m] / liskin, hi, I see you've made some changes over time to the EWMH desktop module in xmonad-contrib ... mind if I ask you a question about it?
2022-05-14 05:05:27 <Rotaerk> I'm seeing significant overlap between XMonad.Hooks.EwmhDesktops and XMonad.Layout.Fullscreen
2022-05-14 05:05:52 <Rotaerk> the latter does some nice things, like hide borders when something goes full screen
2022-05-14 05:06:09 <Rotaerk> while the former sets things up with EWMH or whatever
2022-05-14 05:06:48 <Rotaerk> I think you can't use them together because their event handlers do very similar things
2022-05-14 05:07:28 <Rotaerk> is my understanding off here, or has there been any thought around ... reconciling these two modules?
2022-05-14 05:08:32 <Rotaerk> they also don't seem very modular.  like it'd be nice if I could piece together the border-hiding behavior with the EWMH behavior
2022-05-14 05:11:27 <Rotaerk> kind of tempted to rip out pieces of these modules and build a custom thing right in my xmonad.hs...
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2022-05-14 05:21:28 <[Leary]> Rotaerk: I don't use either module so I can't really comment on them, but have you looked at X.L.NoBorders?
2022-05-14 05:22:06 <Rotaerk> actually, I think I've got it working. it seems to work with `ewmh` from X.L.EwmhDesktops and `fullscreenSupportBorder` from X.L.Fullscreen
2022-05-14 05:22:45 <Rotaerk> the `ewmh` one makes it so that if I, say, fullscreen a youtube video, xmonad treats it as fullscreen... while the `fullscreenSupportBorder` makes it actually *handle* fullscreen properly
2022-05-14 05:24:04 <Rotaerk> I did notice NoBorders, which lets me manually toggle borders off/on, but in this case I want it to happen automatically in the event of a window becoming fullscreen
2022-05-14 05:24:24 <Rotaerk> the `fullscreenSupportBorder` seems to do it well
2022-05-14 05:40:29 <liskin> I think the general recommendation is to use ewmh, ewmhFullscreen and smartBorders
2022-05-14 05:42:37 <liskin> I do have some ideas about reconciling EwmhDesktops and Layout.Fullscreen to make them more modular and plug one into the other, but I struggled with motivation to work on this stuff lately
2022-05-14 05:45:23 <liskin> We now have a way to add hooks to EwmhDesktops, so I wanted to add hooks for fullscreen and unfullscreen that Layout.Fullscreen would plug into, and also change the current default of unfullscreen to not just sink, but also restore original floating dimensions if the window was floating before.
2022-05-14 05:47:46 <Rotaerk> interesting, I'll try that approach
2022-05-14 05:48:11 <Rotaerk> I'm looking at X.L.NoBorders now and I think I *hadn't* seen it ... was thinking of something else earlier
2022-05-14 05:50:20 <Rotaerk> oh.  I was looking at XMonad.Actions.NoBorders...
2022-05-14 06:01:30 <Rotaerk> worked like a charm; thanks!
2022-05-14 06:19:26 <Rotaerk> hmm setting position to `TopW R 90` doesn't seem to work, only left-alignment seems to respect the %
2022-05-14 06:19:35 <Rotaerk> in the xmobar config
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2022-05-14 06:51:43 <deadeyegam0001> o/
2022-05-14 06:51:50 <deadeyegam0001> o//

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