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2021-10-27 18:51:53 <geekosaur> edits straight up do not work on the irc side of things
2021-10-27 18:52:00 <M-elo-[m]> s/hydra/cachix/, s/build/repo/, s/repos/xmonad and xmonad-contrib/
2021-10-27 18:52:12 <M-elo-[m]> geekosaur: Oh shit.. sorry. Was not aware of the troubles
2021-10-27 18:52:19 <M-elo-[m]> Will try to reduce them as much as possible
2021-10-27 18:52:59 <Solid> M-elo-[m]: http://ix.io/3D5N to give you a taste :)
2021-10-27 18:53:45 <M-elo-[m]> Yeah that looks terrible.. will keep it in mind!
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2021-10-27 19:19:05 <liskin> M-elo-[m]: I said it then and I'll say it again: there is one sure way to accelerate that PR—work on it. Anyone can do that. You. Ivan. Me. Anyone.
2021-10-27 19:19:44 <liskin> I think it's now in the 0.18 milestone, which is preceded by 0.17.1, which means I personally may have other priorities. Those priorities can of course be influenced somehow, but… I can't help feeling the ball isn't in my court with this one.
2021-10-27 19:22:51 <M-elo-[m]> <liskin> "-(𝕂eloτ)-: I said it then and I..." <- Well, it's waiting for your input judging from the last comment you wrote in that PR.
2021-10-27 19:23:19 <liskin> M-elo-[m]: is it? just so we're clear, which PR are we talking about exactly?
2021-10-27 19:23:33 <M-elo-[m]> liskin: I don't mind it as long as the PR won't take 3 years :)
2021-10-27 19:23:38 <M-elo-[m]> ConditionalLayout
2021-10-27 19:24:08 <geekosaur> we really do want to speed things up
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2021-10-27 19:24:23 <liskin> M-elo-[m]: oh, well, I guess my last comment can be interpreted that way
2021-10-27 19:24:29 <liskin> M-elo-[m]: it's certainly not what I meant, though
2021-10-27 19:24:32 <geekosaur> that said, we've said that before and I think it ended up taking another 6 months after that to actually release
2021-10-27 19:25:15 <liskin> M-elo-[m]: I think Ivan's implementation isn't good, I suggested a better implementation, I posted a prototype, and I expected Ivan to take that prototype and polish it into something that can be merged
2021-10-27 19:25:31 <liskin> M-elo-[m]: and yes, I did say that should that not happen, I will eventually do it
2021-10-27 19:25:41 <liskin> we all know what eventually means in this context.
2021-10-27 19:25:56 <M-elo-[m]> liskin: That part I was not aware of, I guess now I am
2021-10-27 19:26:46 <M-elo-[m]> liskin: We do appreciate your contribution obviously, I just misunderstood your intentions
2021-10-27 19:27:06 <M-elo-[m]> <del>obviously</del> that being said
2021-10-27 19:27:14 <liskin> okay, cool.
2021-10-27 19:27:14 <M-elo-[m]> for our dear IRC folks :)
2021-10-27 19:34:30 <liskin> https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29017498 gives an interesting background information about the Xorg release happening
2021-10-27 19:34:57 <liskin> I guess it's in our best interest to signal boost that? :-)
2021-10-27 19:35:47 geekosaur does a quick chekc for any existing hexchat addons that process matrix edits… looks like nope :(
2021-10-27 19:36:21 <M-elo-[m]> Why not use matrix? 🤔
2021-10-27 19:36:28 <M-elo-[m]> client*
2021-10-27 19:37:29 <geekosaur> because my browser is already overloaded and I see no point in running ewhat amounts to a second browser with a bad ui
2021-10-27 19:37:37 <liskin> virgin element chad weechat, is how I'd put it :-)
2021-10-27 19:38:18 <geekosaur> possibly I'll look into weechat at some point but I was under the impression its matrix support was fairly buggy
2021-10-27 19:38:35 <liskin> yes it's absolute crap
2021-10-27 19:39:25 <liskin> but as an IRC client, weechat is better than element in every way I care about
2021-10-27 19:40:05 <liskin> (I do use a separate weechat instance as a Matrix client, because it's still a bit better than element, but I wouldn't dare to recommend that to anyone)
2021-10-27 19:43:39 <M-elo-[m]> <liskin> "virgin element chad weechat..." <- was about to recommend weechat just now
2021-10-27 19:43:49 <M-elo-[m]> It always confuses people with wechat though.. wish they would change their username
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2021-10-27 19:44:57 <M-elo-[m]> I would simply recommend people fractal for simple matrix usage, no edits + calling/video or other features many deem useful
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2021-10-27 22:40:15 <liskin> Solid: looks like open collective has a cool new feature—we can request a virtual card valid for a single merchant (once it's used it can't be used anywhere else, ever), which seems useful for the domain fees for example
2021-10-27 22:40:49 <liskin> I love that they're making these things easier right when we need them
2021-10-27 22:54:24 <^[> Congrats on 0.17!
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2021-10-28 07:41:26 <mc47[m]> Thank you!
2021-10-28 07:46:03 <liskin> Solid: https://lists.x.org/archives/xorg-announce/2021-October/003115.html
2021-10-28 07:46:15 <liskin> It was indeed in the mod queue
2021-10-28 07:46:22 <liskin> :-D
2021-10-28 07:52:07 <Solid> liskin: :DD that's amazing
2021-10-28 07:52:59 <Solid> and yeah, we should probably approach Tony and offer to pay for the fees via that method
2021-10-28 07:53:37 <Solid> s/Tony/Toni/
2021-10-28 07:53:41 <Solid> oh we don't even have to wait

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