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| 2022-03-11 18:49:38 | <Articus> | Could use some help to be able to print messages again in xmessage |
| 2022-03-11 18:49:47 | <Articus> | ooops |
| 2022-03-11 18:50:00 | <geekosaur> | if xmessage isn't displaying anything it may mean you're missing some bitmapped fonts |
| 2022-03-11 18:50:19 | <geekosaur> | what distro? |
| 2022-03-11 18:50:24 | <Articus> | Manjaro |
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| 2022-03-11 18:52:49 | <Articus> | I had issues in xmessage in Manjaro at first, it was showing other language letters and I added Xmessage*font: -*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* to .xinitrc, it worked. But now it stopped showing messages |
| 2022-03-11 19:00:00 | <geekosaur> | blah. not finding what they call the stock X11 fonts package |
| 2022-03-11 19:00:53 | <geekosaur> | if you don't mind perl, my wrapper that runs zenity might be of interest: https://github.com/geekosaur/xmonad.hs/blob/skkukuk/xmessage |
| 2022-03-11 19:03:25 | <Articus> | your xmonad.hs calls your xmessage? |
| 2022-03-11 19:03:30 | <geekosaur> | that XLFD spec is problematic btw; on most systems I've tried it on, it gets me a CJK font |
| 2022-03-11 19:04:47 | <Articus> | I belive I'll reinstall Manjaro, but I would like to take a peek at your config after that |
| 2022-03-11 19:05:07 | <geekosaur> | https://github.com/geekosaur/xmonad.hs/tree/skkukuk |
| 2022-03-11 19:08:48 | <Articus> | On manjaro by default xmessage send letters in a different alphabet, I remember once I installed a font package from the AUR and it got fixed, but I dond't remember or saved which package was, I found that XFLD on reddit from someone having the same issue. Works on this distro |
| 2022-03-11 19:08:53 | <ArshiaAghaei[m]> | geekosaur, any clue how to set up a polkit for virt-manager? |
| 2022-03-11 19:08:56 | <ArshiaAghaei[m]> | Using xmonad |
| 2022-03-11 19:09:09 | <geekosaur> | none, sorry |
| 2022-03-11 19:09:57 | <ArshiaAghaei[m]> | geekosaur Also, I had to re-login |
| 2022-03-11 19:10:03 | <ArshiaAghaei[m]> | Now the keys work |
| 2022-03-11 19:10:08 | <ArshiaAghaei[m]> | for some reason |
| 2022-03-11 19:10:32 | <geekosaur> | possibly pkexec will help you |
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| 2022-03-11 19:11:09 | <geekosaur> | but that just invokes policykit's authenticator around a program, and assumes polkit knows how to authenticate virt-manager |
| 2022-03-11 19:11:44 | <geekosaur> | and probably requires dbus to be running |
| 2022-03-11 19:12:51 | <geekosaur> | which means you end up changing that exec= line we discussed earlier to something like: dbus-launch /home/arshia/.local/bin/xmonad |
| 2022-03-11 19:13:01 | <geekosaur> | and logging out and back in |
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| 2022-03-11 19:59:08 | <ArshiaAghaei[m]> | I just did sudo virt-manager |
| 2022-03-11 19:59:11 | <ArshiaAghaei[m]> | And it worked |
| 2022-03-11 20:00:17 | <geekosaur> | setting up dbus and using pkexec is probably better than running random stuff as root |
| 2022-03-11 20:03:29 | <ArshiaAghaei[m]> | geekosaur: virt-manager isn't random tho |
| 2022-03-11 20:03:31 | <ArshiaAghaei[m]> | It's an app |
| 2022-03-11 20:03:39 | <MrElendig> | you can also use a user qemu session instead of the system one for most use cases |
| 2022-03-11 20:03:42 | <ArshiaAghaei[m]> | vm manager |
| 2022-03-11 20:04:09 | <MrElendig> | slightly more inconvenient if you use bridge networking, but only slightly |
| 2022-03-11 20:05:05 | <geekosaur> | I know what virt-manager is. I still prefer restricting elevated permissions to when they're really needed, and polkit has better granularity than sudo in that regard |
| 2022-03-11 20:06:03 | <geekosaur> | (ex-sysadmin; I'm paranoid about root perms in particular) |
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| 2022-03-11 20:45:04 | <liskin> | With a working polkit, there's no need to pkexec vítr-manager. The polkit agent will ask for password when connecting to the system qemu session. |
| 2022-03-11 20:45:39 | <liskin> | And then, the user session works brilliantly, too, once networking is taken care of. |
| 2022-03-11 20:46:29 | <liskin> | I think all I needed to do was to run the gnome polkit agent in the background. Obviously dbus and stuff is taken care of by the distro |
| 2022-03-11 20:53:29 | <ArshiaAghaei[m]> | yeah I have to exec the polkit manually |
| 2022-03-11 20:53:42 | <ArshiaAghaei[m]> | How do I manage brightness? |
| 2022-03-11 20:53:55 | <ArshiaAghaei[m]> | M-right and left arrow won't work |
| 2022-03-11 20:56:14 | <geekosaur> | https://hackage.haskell.org/package/xmonad-extras-0.17.0/docs/XMonad-Util-Brightness.html |
| 2022-03-11 21:05:30 | <ArshiaAghaei[m]> | I can't seem to find the special character for function key |
| 2022-03-11 21:06:40 | <liskin> | On some laptops those keys emit acpi events rather than keycodes |
| 2022-03-11 21:07:12 | <ArshiaAghaei[m]> | Older or newer ones? |
| 2022-03-11 21:07:59 | <liskin> | Older ones handled it in firmware |
| 2022-03-11 21:08:12 | <liskin> | Newer ones either emit keys or events |
| 2022-03-11 21:08:34 | <liskin> | My 5 yo thinkpad emits acpi events |
| 2022-03-11 21:23:13 | ArshiaAghaei[m] | sent a code block: https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/libera.chat/1859a46e4948b4315ea117bdb25575a5bf072271 |
| 2022-03-11 21:23:15 | <ArshiaAghaei[m]> | bruh |
| 2022-03-11 21:23:31 | <ArshiaAghaei[m]> | This is EXACT same property in the guide |
| 2022-03-11 21:23:39 | <ArshiaAghaei[m]> | And it was said to be used like that |
| 2022-03-11 21:24:16 | <geekosaur> | which guide? |
| 2022-03-11 21:25:00 | <ArshiaAghaei[m]> | https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Libinput |
| 2022-03-11 21:26:04 | <geekosaur> | fwiw on my thinkpad Fn-Home and Fn-End emit ACPI events and appear to be handled in ACPI firmware (but may be handled by acpid) |
| 2022-03-11 21:29:28 | <geekosaur> | you probably need to make sure the property actually has that number; in my experience it varies per device |
| 2022-03-11 21:31:48 | <geekosaur> | the Click Method Enabled is prop 340 on my machine, not 303 |
| 2022-03-11 21:32:19 | <geekosaur> | xprop --list-props $device # whatever $device is |
| 2022-03-11 21:32:28 | <ArshiaAghaei[m]> | I did check |
| 2022-03-11 21:36:58 | ArshiaAghaei[m] | sent a code block: https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/libera.chat/9f4536f3313f9373e220e23233c627e3aa18b397 |
| 2022-03-11 21:45:02 | <ArshiaAghaei[m]> | 358 should probably be 1, 1 geekosaur |
| 2022-03-11 21:45:51 | <geekosaur> | no, I'm talking the prop number, not the setting |
| 2022-03-11 21:46:21 | <ArshiaAghaei[m]> | isn't 358 the prop number? |
| 2022-03-11 21:47:35 | <geekosaur> | oh, I misunderstood what you were saying |
| 2022-03-11 21:47:50 | <geekosaur> | on my machine the prop number is 340 and its value is 1, 1 |
| 2022-03-11 21:47:57 | <geekosaur> | https://paste.tomsmeding.com/iXkrQN0n |
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| 2022-03-11 21:54:06 | <liskin> | geekosaur: which thinkpad do you have? |
| 2022-03-11 21:54:39 | <liskin> | Although fn-home probably means it's T420 or earlier |
| 2022-03-11 21:54:50 | <liskin> | (or T25, but I'd remember that) |
| 2022-03-11 21:58:33 | <geekosaur> | X220 |
| 2022-03-11 22:02:30 | <ArshiaAghaei[m]> | <geekosaur> "on my machine the prop number is..." <- I tried 1, 1 as value |
| 2022-03-11 22:02:32 | <ArshiaAghaei[m]> | same error |
| 2022-03-11 22:02:58 | <geekosaur> | I think in the example they showed you enter it without the comma? |
| 2022-03-11 22:03:10 | <ArshiaAghaei[m]> | Yeah |
| 2022-03-11 22:03:13 | <ArshiaAghaei[m]> | I did that initially |
| 2022-03-11 22:08:27 | <geekosaur> | mmm, actually I'm getting the same error. but it reports the bad value… and it's the option, not its value |
| 2022-03-11 22:12:58 | <ArshiaAghaei[m]> | I tried 348 |
| 2022-03-11 22:13:03 | <ArshiaAghaei[m]> | Seems to work |
| 2022-03-11 22:13:13 | <geekosaur> | but if I change the option name/value it correctly reportsit as invalid |
| 2022-03-11 22:13:18 | <geekosaur> | so I have no idea |
| 2022-03-11 22:13:46 | <geekosaur> | and reports BadMatch if I only provide 1 value instead of 2 |
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