Logs: liberachat/#xmonad
| 2022-07-28 18:30:27 | <Hash> | Then again KDE doesn't play well with popping windows in Xmonad etc. |
| 2022-07-28 18:30:37 | <geekosaur> | that may still be KDE behavior. KDE's kinda particular about such things |
| 2022-07-28 18:30:40 | <Hash> | So I have to select the window, then hit my KDE app start button, and the window shows up. |
| 2022-07-28 18:30:45 | <Hash> | Otherwise it's just desktop background |
| 2022-07-28 18:30:52 | <evilop> | kde is just broken with >1 screen |
| 2022-07-28 18:30:57 | <Hash> | :( |
| 2022-07-28 18:31:07 | <Hash> | Yeah, previously for years, I had a custom xorg.conf |
| 2022-07-28 18:31:11 | <geekosaur> | check for a displays applet and uncheck any entry about moving windows when a monitor is disconnected |
| 2022-07-28 18:31:19 | <Hash> | 6 monitors, custom xinerama config, nothing was issue. |
| 2022-07-28 18:31:29 | <evilop> | they finally got a "primary screen" toggle for wayland, but it doesn |
| 2022-07-28 18:31:33 | <Hash> | Now I'm using nouveau driver and xrandr without xorg.conf |
| 2022-07-28 18:31:35 | <evilop> | 't actually work right |
| 2022-07-28 18:31:39 | <Hash> | Ahh |
| 2022-07-28 18:31:46 | <geekosaur> | this won't be window manager, it'll be an applet listening for XRandR monitor change events |
| 2022-07-28 18:31:52 | <Hash> | Hmm |
| 2022-07-28 18:31:53 | <evilop> | so when your screen wakes up from dpms suspend, stuff still breaks horribly |
| 2022-07-28 18:33:41 | <Hash> | https://i.imgur.com/q5HHpv1.jpg |
| 2022-07-28 18:33:56 | <Hash> | https://i.imgur.com/TRMx7pJ.jpg |
| 2022-07-28 18:34:06 | <Hash> | Back few years ago 2016 etc. |
| 2022-07-28 18:34:13 | <Hash> | I used a custom xorg.conf |
| 2022-07-28 18:34:27 | <Hash> | Now the nvidia driver is legacy and they dont' support new kernels, so nouveau is the driver to use |
| 2022-07-28 18:34:45 | <Hash> | and that one has auto config with xrandr, so no xorg.conf is needed, and it's doing goofy things. |
| 2022-07-28 18:35:38 | <geekosaur> | my video driver (intel) has always done goody things on monitor plug/unplug, I've given up and just rebooted when doing that |
| 2022-07-28 18:35:43 | <geekosaur> | *goofy |
| 2022-07-28 18:35:54 | <Hash> | Yeah, I thought about that just now before talking here |
| 2022-07-28 18:36:03 | <Hash> | But then I have lots of services/vms, can't just reboot. :( |
| 2022-07-28 18:36:24 | <geekosaur> | like suddenly I have only the bottom half of the screen on the internal panel visible |
| 2022-07-28 18:37:31 | <geekosaur> | well, yes, and I prefer just leaving the monitors as they are as a result. but the system is "hold the power button until it dies" if I connect/remove a monitor, so… |
| 2022-07-28 18:38:28 | <Hash> | Damn |
| 2022-07-28 18:38:34 | <geekosaur> | maybe I'll play with the rescreen hook at some point and see if explicit xrandr commands will let me get things back into usable shape |
| 2022-07-28 18:48:40 | <Hash> | I have to type up 3 papers in the next 3 days. I can do it! |
| 2022-07-28 18:48:42 | <Hash> | See ya |
| 2022-07-28 18:48:54 | <alternateved> | autorandr with rescreen hook works really well |
| 2022-07-28 18:55:23 | <geekosaur> | assuming your driver does |
| 2022-07-28 18:55:41 | <geekosaur> | mine leaves the screen in weird states, so I'm not at all sure I can recover it with xrandr |
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| 2022-07-28 20:15:55 | <liskin> | oh, you're still on intel instead of modesetting? |
| 2022-07-28 20:16:06 | <liskin> | that thing hasn't been getting any updates in years |
| 2022-07-28 20:17:20 | <geekosaur[m]> | I'm on whatever the default is, which from Xorg.0.log appears to be intel |
| 2022-07-28 20:18:24 | <geekosaur[m]> | Not sure what it takes on Ubuntu to use modesetting |
| 2022-07-28 20:20:24 | <liskin> | uninstall xserver-xorg-video-intel maybe |
| 2022-07-28 20:29:13 | <geekosaur> | Xorg.0.log is loading modesetting but it's not 100% clear if that's what is recognizing my Intel chipset |
| 2022-07-28 20:29:34 | <geekosaur> | if it is then it's the guilty party in monitor plugging/unplugging not working right |
| 2022-07-28 20:35:58 | <liskin> | hm |
| 2022-07-28 20:36:33 | <liskin> | might be the kernel's i915 driver fault then |
| 2022-07-28 20:36:48 | <liskin> | it's been fairly reliable here lately, but there used to be loads of issues in the past |
| 2022-07-28 20:37:52 | <geekosaur> | what I know for certain is this has been happening for years, across 3 computers all with Intel i9xx video |
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