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2022-10-17 10:27:32 <dminuoso> Very nice :)
2022-10-17 10:27:40 <dminuoso> And with a custom v2-build ontop.
2022-10-17 10:28:29 <Phaseditto> Entirely separate from xbps but that's not a problem for me, might even prove as a somewhat portable setup
2022-10-17 10:28:53 <dminuoso> Yes, this is definitely more portable.
2022-10-17 10:29:12 <dminuoso> Outside of native dependencies, all haskell dependencies can be constrained or even pinned
2022-10-17 10:29:21 <dminuoso> (via tight bounds or lock file)
2022-10-17 10:29:34 <Phaseditto> Again, thank you and geekosaur for the help
2022-10-17 10:29:42 <dminuoso> You're welcome.
2022-10-17 10:30:46 <Phaseditto> When i am less sick and got more time i might write a little documentation for the Void crowd how to get xmonad running there. It initially kept me from switching to the distro since i had to opt for DWM to have a somewhat similar experience
2022-10-17 10:32:58 <dminuoso> Feel free to supply that documentation to our wiki at https://wiki.haskell.org/Xmonad
2022-10-17 10:33:38 <Phaseditto> When i get around to it, i will set a reminder for myself
2022-10-17 10:33:48 <Phaseditto> When i get around to it, until then i will set a reminder for myself
2022-10-17 10:34:06 <Phaseditto> Whoops, new-era messenger habit
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2022-10-17 11:36:29 <Solid> (please add it to the website instead of a desolate wiki)
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2022-10-17 11:48:39 <geekosaur> they already left
2022-10-17 11:49:11 <Solid> oh
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2022-10-17 12:43:57 <Phaseditto> Solid i was merely gone and i read through the logs. will do when i get around to do that
2022-10-17 12:44:27 <Phaseditto> Haven't installed an IRC client yet so this is just a guest session over my browser
2022-10-17 12:53:30 <geekosaur> you may be interested in matrix
2022-10-17 12:54:25 <geekosaur> see https://element.io (element is the most popular, but not the only, matrix client)
2022-10-17 12:55:20 <geekosaur> https://matrix.org has a list of other clients
2022-10-17 12:55:25 <Phaseditto> I have my own matrix / elment server but it's unfederated and i muslti sessions are not a thing yet
2022-10-17 12:55:37 <geekosaur> ah
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2022-10-17 13:06:29 <Phaseditto> Test, is this working?
2022-10-17 13:10:34 <geekosaur> yes
2022-10-17 13:11:19 <Phaseditto> Good, i set up irssi real quick so i don't have to do this over the browser
2022-10-17 13:11:56 geekosaur prefers hexchat
2022-10-17 13:12:01 <geekosaur> but whatever floats your boat
2022-10-17 13:12:19 <Phaseditto> i literally took the first thing the gentoo people answered in their Discord
2022-10-17 13:13:08 <Phaseditto> also i am a Terminal rat, so i like CLIs (i know they are more cumbersome overall ^^')
2022-10-17 13:13:43 <geekosaur> I hang out in a couple channels which use flags and such that don't render right in most terminals
2022-10-17 13:14:05 <geekosaur> and emoticons (borderline) etc.
2022-10-17 13:14:38 <geekosaur> mostly I use matrix from my phone because irc clients for android suck
2022-10-17 13:15:04 <geekosaur> but doing chanop stuff sucks even more from matrix so I use a real irc client on the desktop
2022-10-17 13:15:29 <geekosaur> (chanop here, #haskell* channels, ##soccer)
2022-10-17 13:15:42 <Phaseditto> Yeah i haven't used IRC in years but slowly i prefer it more over the alternatives again
2022-10-17 13:20:47 <Phaseditto> I have this odd behavior that, when i recompile xmonad and restart it i don't see any changes. The restart is happening, i can see the very short flicker but i only get the changes when i log out and in again
2022-10-17 13:27:13 <geekosaur> are you changing your layout hook?
2022-10-17 13:27:29 <Phaseditto> the build file is in ~/.xmonad/ . The only difference is that the xmonad folder is symlinked but that should not pose a problem, no?
2022-10-17 13:27:41 <geekosaur> it doesn't
2022-10-17 13:28:03 <geekosaur> if you change only your layout hook and the type doesn't change, it will be ignored until you mod-shift-space
2022-10-17 13:28:32 <Phaseditto> This time for instance i changed myFocusBorderColor to a different value
2022-10-17 13:28:35 <geekosaur> because it doesn't detect the change at runtime and there are things like changing the number of master windows that you might want to keep across restarts
2022-10-17 13:28:43 <geekosaur> oh, that should have worked
2022-10-17 13:28:47 <Phaseditto> thought so
2022-10-17 13:30:22 <Phaseditto> makes adjusting the look quite the hassle
2022-10-17 13:31:53 <geekosaur> hm. I use a build script and I can chang stuff at runtime fine without having to log out/in
2022-10-17 13:32:47 <Phaseditto> maybe i am missing something in my build script?
2022-10-17 13:33:10 <geekosaur> probably not or logging out and in wouldn't do it either
2022-10-17 13:33:36 <Phaseditto> makes sense but then i have no idea what's wrong
2022-10-17 13:36:06 <geekosaur> neither do I 😞 if the one works then the other should as well
2022-10-17 13:36:16 <Phaseditto> the rest is state handling
2022-10-17 13:36:35 <Phaseditto> i could remove the xmonad.state but that would probably just make it crash
2022-10-17 13:37:29 <geekosaur> they're actually the same code path, mod-q recompiles if necedssary and then re-exsecs xmonad. the only difference is the new one is passed a parameter pointing to a state file preserving the layout and ExtensibleState, neither of which is involved with border color
2022-10-17 13:40:38 <Phaseditto> The thing is that literally no changes go through. Key bindings aswell
2022-10-17 13:40:52 <Phaseditto> until i log
2022-10-17 13:41:13 <geekosaur> yes, that sounds like it's running the old version of your compiled config
2022-10-17 13:41:27 <geekosaur> can you pastebin your build script?
2022-10-17 13:41:30 <geekosaur> @where paste
2022-10-17 13:41:30 <lambdabot> Help us help you: please paste full code, input and/or output at e.g. https://paste.tomsmeding.com
2022-10-17 13:41:54 <Phaseditto> https://paste.tomsmeding.com/Mgcmm9bC
2022-10-17 13:42:16 <Phaseditto> literally as simple as can be
2022-10-17 13:44:20 <geekosaur> hm. actually I wonder if that works. you might check the session file for errors
2022-10-17 13:44:48 <Phaseditto> aite
2022-10-17 13:44:56 <geekosaur> it occurs to me that the file that's being written is the one that';s running and something might be throwing ETXTBSY as a result
2022-10-17 13:45:46 <Phaseditto> thanks for the hint i will check it out in a bit
2022-10-17 13:45:53 <geekosaur> I have mine copy instead of linking out of cabal's build area, and move the old one to a backup, so that can't happen
2022-10-17 13:46:16 <Phaseditto> ah yeah i might try that in a bit
2022-10-17 13:46:23 <Phaseditto> currently in a sudden VC
2022-10-17 13:58:57 <geekosaur> (if you're wondering how this would work on login, that recompile (forced because it can't know when to rebuild when you have a build script) is done by the main xmonad binary instead of by your compiled config like mod-q restarts)
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2022-10-17 15:23:22 <Phaseditto> geekosaur can you paste your build script maybe?
2022-10-17 15:25:10 <geekosaur> I'm just using the example cabal build script. https://github.com/geekosaur/xmonad.hs/blob/skkukuk/build
2022-10-17 15:26:14 <xmonadtrack> xmonad-contrib Tony Zorman * v0.17.1-33-g4d7ae81f: X.U.Parser: Feature parity with ReadP (2 weeks ago, 2 files, 103+ 2-) https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad-contrib/commit/4d7ae81f7ad7
2022-10-17 15:26:14 <xmonadtrack> xmonad-contrib Tony Zorman * v0.17.1-34-g0bef428f: X.U.Parser: Inline definitions (13 days ago, 1 file, 36+ 4-) https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad-contrib/commit/0bef428f8fe5
2022-10-17 15:26:17 <Phaseditto> hold on, this script uses cabal install instead of cabal build, does that make any difference?
2022-10-17 15:26:20 <xmonadtrack> xmonad-contrib Tony Zorman * v0.17.1-35-g2b1a15c9: X.P.OrgMode: Remove pLast (2 weeks ago, 1 file, 2+ 7-) https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad-contrib/commit/2b1a15c9e57d
2022-10-17 15:26:27 <xmonadtrack> xmonad-contrib Tony Zorman {GitHub} * v0.17.1-41-g05c4c776: Merge pull request #759 from slotThe/parser/feature-parity (2 minutes ago, 0 files, 0+ 0-) https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad-contrib/commit/05c4c776af3a

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