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2023-04-20 00:16:27 <geekosaur> I am somewhat tempted to have you try debugManageHookOn (https://github.com/geekosaur/xmonad.hs/blob/skkukuk/xmonad.hs#L56) and then do what makes it tile, and see if the ManageHook triggers and if it has sane window information
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2023-04-20 07:36:31 <liskin> I'm a bit overstretched these days :-(
2023-04-20 07:36:46 <liskin> Only ircing from toilets and stuff
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2023-04-20 07:50:51 <mc47> liskin, geekosaur, Solid: should we plan how to merge [Leary]'s work (the mvdt stuff) to core? It makes `windows` way more intuitive (#807 was a breeze after their changes) and I think it's an improvement
2023-04-20 07:56:45 <geekosaur> I think the current plan is to release the next version as 1.0 and then merge it, because it's a pretty breaking change
2023-04-20 08:00:57 <liskin> how much of xmonad-contrib does it break, if any?
2023-04-20 08:02:00 <geekosaur> I'm more worried about configs. I know I've handed out various invocations of `windows` with wild abandon and am rather worried that they'll all have to be modified
2023-04-20 08:02:52 <geekosaur> `windows` is pretty core, after all
2023-04-20 08:03:18 <liskin> yeah, people will hate us for this :-/
2023-04-20 08:04:01 <geekosaur> that's why I want this to be 1.1 🙂
2023-04-20 08:04:06 <mc47> I mean, they can just _not_ upgrade, right?
2023-04-20 08:05:15 <liskin> they'd first need to know not to upgrade
2023-04-20 08:05:42 <liskin> if we break configs of dozens of people they'll be upset
2023-04-20 08:05:46 <liskin> that's inevitable :-)
2023-04-20 08:06:07 <geekosaur> hell, we did that just with deprecations
2023-04-20 08:07:11 <liskin> (if I was in their place I'd probably tweet something like "why the fuck do these morons waste time breaking user configs by core refactors instead of biting the bullet and just dealing with Wayland alread?" :-))
2023-04-20 08:07:29 <geekosaur> they already do that 🙂
2023-04-20 08:07:41 <liskin> :-))
2023-04-20 08:08:16 <mc47> Oh right, we can't really deprecate
2023-04-20 08:08:29 <[Leary]> The ManageHook PR, which I'll stress /doesn't actually need to go in/, will break basically every config. The core PR #432 (and most if not all of the others), however, break virtually nothing; only the repeatable action stuff (which can be fixed contrib-side).
2023-04-20 08:09:08 <[Leary]> Sorry for not getting back to working on this stuff, by the way. My motivation has been elsewhere.
2023-04-20 08:09:26 <mc47> I mean... we could just deprecate windows and introduce another combinator with the same implementation
2023-04-20 08:09:38 <mc47> Might be better than just a silent breaking change
2023-04-20 08:09:44 <geekosaur> yeh, I was focused elsewhere for a while too
2023-04-20 08:10:03 <geekosaur> spent today on a bunch of xmonad issues to catch up
2023-04-20 08:10:08 <mc47> No need to say sorry, it's great that you contribute code in the first place :D
2023-04-20 08:10:14 <liskin> mc47: contrib invokes windows in like a million of places :-)
2023-04-20 08:10:25 <liskin> I don't think you can realistically keep both impls in
2023-04-20 08:10:40 <mc47> right..
2023-04-20 08:10:43 <geekosaur> inevitably since it's pretty much the heart of xmonad
2023-04-20 08:11:03 <[Leary]> The beauty of #432 is that we don't need to mess with `windows`, because the semantics haven't actually changed, and it's still used the same way.
2023-04-20 08:11:24 <geekosaur> oh, hm. maybe we can pull this off after all then
2023-04-20 08:11:34 <[Leary]> Only the implementation and (operational) interpretation change.
2023-04-20 08:11:38 mc47 has also been busy... planning a wedding :D
2023-04-20 08:12:09 <mc47> I think the problematic change is with the manageHook
2023-04-20 08:12:09 <geekosaur> congratulations?
2023-04-20 08:12:46 <mc47> yeah thanks
2023-04-20 08:13:21 <mc47> The rest of the changes probably won't break anything
2023-04-20 08:14:55 <liskin> well anyway, we can merge my floatLocation PR (needs changelog update), release 0.18 or 0.17.3, and then merge the non-managehook PRs and see what breaks
2023-04-20 08:15:02 <liskin> if we do a bit of messaging about it…
2023-04-20 08:15:34 <liskin> (I haven't seen the diffs yet though, sorry for that, had to prioritise other things in life lately)
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2023-04-20 08:24:44 <mc47> I've been running #433 without any problems for quite some time
2023-04-20 08:24:50 <mc47> sounds like a plan :+1:
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2023-04-20 11:24:56 <jabuxas> hello
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2023-04-20 20:13:00 <jabuxas> one thing i managed to find out in the logs is when it "tiles" from 1600x900 floated state - https://bpa.st/6SLDC
2023-04-20 20:13:03 <jabuxas> i hope that helps with anything
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2023-04-20 20:14:37 <geekosaur> yeh, that's requesting a resize
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