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2022-03-11 14:52:04 <ArshiaAghaei[m]> , borderWidth = 3
2022-03-11 14:52:13 <ArshiaAghaei[m]> in myConfig I added these
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2022-03-11 14:57:48 <ArshiaAghaei[m]> M-Q does not return error
2022-03-11 15:08:25 <geekosaur> can you pastebin your current xmonad.hs ?
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2022-03-11 16:48:08 <liskin> Solid, mc47, geekosaur: I played with the new github projects a bit today: https://github.com/orgs/xmonad/projects/4
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2022-03-11 16:48:42 <liskin> feature-wise, it's really crap as it's missing a few features that the old projects had, but it looks nice
2022-03-11 16:49:09 <mc47> it does look nice, except for the labels tabs. that's ugly
2022-03-11 16:49:30 <liskin> milestone-grouping in the roadmap table and the ability to have multiple boards under one project is good
2022-03-11 16:49:47 <mc47> Agreed
2022-03-11 16:50:21 <liskin> mc47: I thought that perhaps if we reduced the number of labels we have and just had a few labels that actually provide some useful value, then it might not be too bad
2022-03-11 16:50:21 <mc47> (btw, I read the emails, I'll probably write my thoughts in the weekend, since I need to apply for some internships)
2022-03-11 16:50:38 <mc47> I think the UI could be better
2022-03-11 16:50:47 <liskin> hm, not sure what you mean then
2022-03-11 16:51:29 <mc47> I can't see all labels without resizing the column :D and yes, the labels have a low information density, but not sure how we can improve that
2022-03-11 16:52:20 <liskin> I'd start by deleting all labels and then add labels when we actually (think we) need them :-)
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2022-03-11 17:07:59 <ArshiaAghaei[m]> <geekosaur> "can you pastebin your current..." <- Sure
2022-03-11 17:10:34 <ArshiaAghaei[m]> https://pastebin.com/c22cubF8
2022-03-11 17:11:31 <ArshiaAghaei[m]> <Print> doesn't work either
2022-03-11 17:11:47 <ArshiaAghaei[m]> Neither does M-n or M-N or M-T or M-t even
2022-03-11 17:12:56 <geekosaur> M-N and M-T won'twork because you don't have an unshifted key bound to the uppercase letters
2022-03-11 17:13:09 <geekosaur> if you want them shifted you have to say something like M-S-t
2022-03-11 17:13:35 <geekosaur> xmonad works with keys at a very low level (actually it does keycodes rather than key symbols)
2022-03-11 17:16:57 <ArshiaAghaei[m]> geekosaur: What about M-n and M-t
2022-03-11 17:17:01 <ArshiaAghaei[m]> They don't work either
2022-03-11 17:17:13 <ArshiaAghaei[m]> Or <Print>
2022-03-11 17:17:23 <ArshiaAghaei[m]> Being the print screen
2022-03-11 17:19:48 <geekosaur> the default bindings for M-n and M-t won't do anything normally. (M-n should really never do anything; arguably if you encounter a time when you need it, it's a bug.)
2022-03-11 17:20:08 <geekosaur> M-t tiles a floating window, so if you aren't focused on a floating window, it's a no-op
2022-03-11 17:21:55 <geekosaur> the <Print> binding probably needs unGrab, like the scrot binding
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2022-03-11 17:30:16 <ArshiaAghaei[m]> And M-M
2022-03-11 17:30:17 <ArshiaAghaei[m]> <geekosaur> "the default bindings for M-n and..." <- M-v is occupied to?
2022-03-11 17:30:18 <ArshiaAghaei[m]> * And M-m
2022-03-11 17:31:27 <geekosaur> no binding for M-v. M-m focuses the master window
2022-03-11 17:31:33 <ArshiaAghaei[m]> I'm looking for keybindings for neovim and thunar
2022-03-11 17:31:58 <geekosaur> you can use the ones you had, you just have to specify them differently.
2022-03-11 17:32:16 <geekosaur> M-S-n and M-S-t instead of M-N and M-T
2022-03-11 17:32:18 <ArshiaAghaei[m]> How do I specify them differently?
2022-03-11 17:32:25 <ArshiaAghaei[m]> Oh OK
2022-03-11 17:34:41 <ArshiaAghaei[m]> , ("M-S-n", spawn "nvim")
2022-03-11 17:34:41 <ArshiaAghaei[m]> , ("M-S-t", spawn "thunar")
2022-03-11 17:34:41 <ArshiaAghaei[m]>
2022-03-11 17:34:43 <ArshiaAghaei[m]> Still the same
2022-03-11 17:35:13 <ArshiaAghaei[m]> [ ("<Print>", unGrab *> spawn "xfce4-screenshooter")
2022-03-11 17:35:27 <ArshiaAghaei[m]> * ```hs
2022-03-11 17:35:27 <ArshiaAghaei[m]> [ ("<Print>", unGrab *> spawn "xfce4-screenshooter")
2022-03-11 17:35:27 <ArshiaAghaei[m]> ```
2022-03-11 17:35:33 <ArshiaAghaei[m]> It won't work too
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2022-03-11 17:36:53 <geekosaur> did you restart with mod-q ?
2022-03-11 17:37:04 <ArshiaAghaei[m]> Yeah
2022-03-11 17:37:22 <ArshiaAghaei[m]> Doesn't work
2022-03-11 17:40:22 <geekosaur> wonder if it works standalone like that
2022-03-11 17:41:32 <geekosaur> mm, on my system it wants the panel too
2022-03-11 17:42:12 <Viejito> Is it possible to conditionally pass through a key press?
2022-03-11 17:44:04 <geekosaur> not really
2022-03-11 17:44:32 <geekosaur> you can conditionally "fake" a keypress to try to pass it on, but many programs ignore synthetic events
2022-03-11 17:44:41 <Viejito> right, I was thinking that
2022-03-11 17:45:11 <Viejito> There is XMonad.Util.Paste.send_key but that sends a synthetic event
2022-03-11 17:46:12 <Viejito> I guess I'll try it, it might work.
2022-03-11 17:46:44 <geekosaur> you have to use the XTest extension to send a realone. it's disabled in the server by default for security reasons
2022-03-11 17:51:21 <Viejito> I want to use the same key to open a terminal and do something slightly smarter if I'm in emacs. But I think I can just invoke emacsclient from xmonad
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2022-03-11 17:52:43 <geekosaur> xdotool manpage has a discussion of the issues with sending keypresses
2022-03-11 17:53:20 <Viejito> btw doing that requires to know on which server I'm running emacs. I see there is XMonad.Util.WindowProperties but it only allows matching of properties, it doesn't provide a way to read them
2022-03-11 17:55:57 <geekosaur> https://hackage.haskell.org/package/xmonad-0.17.0/docs/XMonad-ManageHook.html#v:getStringProperty
2022-03-11 17:56:14 <Viejito> right, I just found it.
2022-03-11 17:56:16 <Viejito> thanks
2022-03-11 17:57:18 <geekosaur> ArshiaAghaei[m], not sure what's going on there but I just tested binding <Print> to spawn xfce4-screenshooter and it worked (with the unGrab)
2022-03-11 17:57:26 <ArshiaAghaei[m]> Aight so virt manager wants a polkit
2022-03-11 17:57:39 <ArshiaAghaei[m]> And Idk how to set it on xmonad
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2022-03-11 18:05:36 <ArshiaAghaei[m]> <geekosaur> "Arshia Aghaei, not sure what's..." <- Can I see your xmonad.hs? Maybe you're starting soemthing that I'm not
2022-03-11 18:10:31 <geekosaur> I'm starting a lot of things you aren't; I use cxmonad as window manager for MATE
2022-03-11 18:11:38 <ArshiaAghaei[m]> fair enough
2022-03-11 18:11:40 <geekosaur> you may need to use xmonad as xfce4's window manager for the right services to be started. https://wiki.haskell.org/Xmonad/Using_xmonad_in_XFCE (which may be out of date)
2022-03-11 18:12:25 <ArshiaAghaei[m]> I'll take a look but I hope I won't need to tbh
2022-03-11 18:12:32 <ArshiaAghaei[m]> I'd rather use xmonad sperately from xfce
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2022-03-11 18:15:33 <ArshiaAghaei[m]> https://github.com/Axarva/dotfiles-2.0
2022-03-11 18:15:41 <ArshiaAghaei[m]> Is this a good place?
2022-03-11 18:18:20 <geekosaur> \I have no clue :)
2022-03-11 18:18:20 <geekosaur> you can search for `xmonad.hs` on github and probably find a few dozen, including mine (but as I said, I run under MATE)
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2022-03-11 18:39:02 <ArshiaAghaei[m]> <geekosaur> "you can search for `xmonad.hs..." <- A lot of them use the old format tho
2022-03-11 18:39:05 <ArshiaAghaei[m]> That's the thing
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2022-03-11 18:48:08 <Articus> Hi, I installed XMonad through stack, after that I can't receive error messages in xmessage. I tried sending a message myself in xmessage and it shows nothing. I tried uninstalling XMonad by deleting the binary and two folders in ~/.stack. I suppose those folders where xmonad and xmonad-contrib because those are the only things I installed with
2022-03-11 18:48:08 <Articus> stack, xmessage continues behaving the same way
2022-03-11 18:48:34 <Articus> Hi geekosaur :)
2022-03-11 18:49:21 <geekosaur> removing stuff under ~/.stack is a good way to break stack

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