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2022-04-18 15:34:33 <geekosaur> you'll also have to find where your session (not server) log is going (usually somewhere like ~/.xsession-errors) so you can copy the manageHook debug information from it
2022-04-18 15:34:59 <Ether[m]> Thanks
2022-04-18 15:35:14 <geekosaur> you would note the current end of the log, restart, then find the log and copy everything that was added to it and paste it somewhere
2022-04-18 15:35:19 <geekosaur> @where paste
2022-04-18 15:35:19 <lambdabot> Help us help you: please paste full code, input and/or output at e.g. https://paste.tomsmeding.com
2022-04-18 15:35:37 <geekosaur> it'll be too long for a screenshot to work
2022-04-18 15:36:12 Sleroq joins (~Sleroq@95-107-2-180.dsl.orel.ru)
2022-04-18 15:39:27 <Sleroq> Hello! I noticed, that xmobar is using ~106mb of RAM. I think it's a lot, is this normal?
2022-04-18 15:40:43 <Ether[m]> Sleroq: Polybar uses more. So i guess.
2022-04-18 15:42:20 <Sleroq> Hmm.. ok, thank you
2022-04-18 15:42:45 <geekosaur> I think liskin has been trying to track down a memory leak?
2022-04-18 15:42:53 geekosaur doesn't use xmobar
2022-04-18 15:43:21 <geekosaur> (but the bar I use uses a lot more memory since it's a fancy gtk+dbus+yadayada desktop environment bar)
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2022-04-18 15:47:08 <Ether[m]> I followed all your instructions but it seems its not logging anything useful
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2022-04-18 15:53:02 <Ether[m]> https://github.com/Ahanaf-Ether/xmonad/blob/stable/xsession-errors
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2022-04-18 15:53:18 <Ether[m]> I forgot i was using startx
2022-04-18 15:53:26 <Ether[m]> Here are the logs..
2022-04-18 15:56:30 <geekosaur> oh right, with startx it'll be on the cirtual terminal and may be difficult to copy
2022-04-18 15:57:02 <geekosaur> I generally have my .xinitrc redirect session errors to .xsession-errors in that case, for consistency and to make them easier to work with
2022-04-18 15:57:51 <geekosaur> also I apologise for earlier, was getting kinda overloaded between yet another network drop, trying to debug here, and also helping someone else in #haskell
2022-04-18 15:58:20 <Ether[m]> geekosaur: Don't, it's my bad..
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2022-04-18 16:00:17 <geekosaur> (and tryinbg to follow progress of half the haskell infrastructure being down because of a hardware problem somewhere)
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2022-04-18 16:01:56 <Ether[m]> geekosaur: Can i see your .xinitrc?
2022-04-18 16:02:06 <geekosaur> (I'm not on the infrastructure team yet, but as an ex-sysadmin I figure it's only a matter of time…)
2022-04-18 16:02:14 <geekosaur> don't have one currently
2022-04-18 16:02:57 <geekosaur> my current setup launches xmonad via mate-session so it all goes to .xsession-errors anyway
2022-04-18 16:04:21 <geekosaur> it's just a one-line addition though, something like: exec >$HOME/.xsession-errors 2>&1
2022-04-18 16:04:47 <geekosaur> right after the #! line
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2022-04-18 16:06:13 <Ether[m]> geekosaur: You mean the #! /bin/sh?
2022-04-18 16:06:27 <Ether[m]> Or bash..
2022-04-18 16:06:37 <geekosaur> yes, it would be the line right after that
2022-04-18 16:07:15 <Ether[m]> So what do i do with the logs?
2022-04-18 16:08:41 <geekosaur> copy them into a pastebin (we usually use paste.tomsmeding.com) and then paste that url here
2022-04-18 16:09:01 <geekosaur> using matrix's paste for this is probably a bad plan as they're likely to be pretty large
2022-04-18 16:09:16 <Ether[m]> I copied it to github
2022-04-18 16:09:22 <geekosaur> at least, if the manageHook isactually being run (which it shouldn't as the windows are already managed)
2022-04-18 16:09:28 <Ether[m]> https://github.com/Ahanaf-Ether/xmonad/blob/stable/xsession-errors
2022-04-18 16:09:55 <Ether[m]> geekosaur: It seems it is..
2022-04-18 16:10:37 <geekosaur> that one doesn't tell me anything though, it only shows polybar starting up and no other windows
2022-04-18 16:10:56 <geekosaur> isn't the problem during restarts and the wrong window gets the focus?
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2022-04-18 16:13:42 <Ether[m]> Yes
2022-04-18 16:14:02 <Ether[m]> But nothing such appears
2022-04-18 16:14:40 <geekosaur> you have the insertPosition thing commented out still according tothe online xmonad.hs
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2022-04-18 16:17:40 <Ether[m]> I uncommented locally
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2022-04-18 16:19:08 <Ether[m]> And now on github
2022-04-18 16:19:18 <Ether[m]> No use.
2022-04-18 16:20:35 <geekosaur> github doesn't show an update
2022-04-18 16:23:48 <Ether[m]> Finally useful info
2022-04-18 16:23:57 <Ether[m]> I have updated the xsession-erros
2022-04-18 16:23:58 <Ether[m]> Errors*
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2022-04-18 16:24:46 <Ether[m]> Here is the commit
2022-04-18 16:24:56 <Ether[m]> https://github.com/Ahanaf-Ether/xmonad/blob/stable/xsession-errors
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2022-04-18 16:29:07 <geekosaur> sigh. it's not a bug indeed. problem is that polybar is restarting and being doIgnored, but the insertPosition hook is still firing
2022-04-18 16:29:19 <geekosaur> I think you need to use composeOne to get around this
2022-04-18 16:30:28 <geekosaur> and insertPosiiton is triggering on the wrong window because polybar doesn't actually get added to the StackSet, being a dock window
2022-04-18 16:32:46 <geekosaur> hm, would composeOne even work here? I think it needs the trigger condition to be separate instead of combined
2022-04-18 16:33:21 <Ether[m]> Ohh
2022-04-18 16:34:02 <Ether[m]> geekosaur: Same is used x.hs
2022-04-18 16:34:15 <geekosaur> right but it isn't doing insertPosition
2022-04-18 16:34:36 <Ether[m]> Tile below
2022-04-18 16:35:56 <geekosaur> wonder if insertPosition needs to check if the StackSet's focused window is the same as the Query's window and abort if it's not]
2022-04-18 16:35:57 <Ether[m]> X.hs is updated
2022-04-18 16:38:56 <geekosaur> your standard one always launches polybar in startupHook. I bet x.hs protects it with spawnOnce
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2022-04-18 16:40:53 <geekosaur> actually it doesn't launch it at all
2022-04-18 16:42:12 <geekosaur> you're using the pipe method, which doesn't quite work since polybar iirc doesn't use stdin
2022-04-18 16:42:33 <geekosaur> but it probably finds a copy already running and so doesn't restart
2022-04-18 16:59:23 <geekosaur> https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad-contrib/issues/709
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2022-04-18 17:04:06 <geekosaur> you probably want github notifications for that issue
2022-04-18 17:05:57 <liskin> geekosaur, Sleroq: there was a memleak in xmobar between versions 0.38 and 0.41; it's fixed since 0.42
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2022-04-18 18:10:03 <Xioulious> in i3 I could throw any program that i have open but temporarily wanted to hide to the scratch pad and then cycle through the ones there to call them back, i know xmonad has named scratchpads but that seems to be a scratchpad for the speficied program, is it possible to have an scratchpad like the one in i3?
2022-04-18 18:11:52 <geekosaur> dynamic scratchpad support was recently merged in git
2022-04-18 18:12:08 <geekosaur> there's a separate dyanmic scratchpads mechanism in older versions, though
2022-04-18 18:12:42 <geekosaur> https://hackage.haskell.org/package/xmonad-contrib-0.17.0/docs/XMonad-Util-DynamicScratchpads.html
2022-04-18 18:13:15 <geekosaur> bleh, that documentation is buggy
2022-04-18 18:13:30 <geekosaur> but not worth fixing because of the new dynamic scratchpad support
2022-04-18 18:14:06 <Xioulious> the one you linked is the old method?

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