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2023-01-15 15:38:40 <geekosaur> emacs in particular is constantly changing cursors for me so it can't just inherit
2023-01-15 15:39:19 <geekosaur> text bar over text, pointer over an empty area, double-headed arrows over modelines, etc.
2023-01-15 15:40:35 <geekosaur> if you want more control over mouse cursors, use an app like lxappearance to set and maybe define a cursor theme
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2023-01-15 16:08:11 <liskin> Solid: actually my setup might be similar to vrs's, al least the xmobar bits
2023-01-15 16:09:02 <liskin> X.H.StatusBar works for me, but I don't use PP at all for the screen-specific bars, I just assemble the content manually
2023-01-15 16:09:26 <liskin> Suppose X.something.Loggers might help, but the code works so why change it
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2023-01-15 16:11:25 <wuqas> i think i got the cursor by changing it directly on /usr/share/icons...
2023-01-15 16:13:05 <geekosaur> okay, so you found a different way to manipulate cursor themes 🙂
2023-01-15 16:13:13 <wuqas> heheh
2023-01-15 16:13:32 <wuqas> all i wanted was to change the default for the icon 'cell' on Adwaita
2023-01-15 16:13:53 <wuqas> so i had to copy and substitute default and left_ptr
2023-01-15 16:14:18 <wuqas> but i installed the app you mentioned.. went to a webpage with icon packs but i could not find an elegant solution to the open crosshair i wanted
2023-01-15 16:14:46 <geekosaur> that was why I mentioned "maybe define"
2023-01-15 16:15:01 <geekosaur> I don't think it has a proper cursor theme editor, though
2023-01-15 16:15:42 <wuqas> yeah.. i noticed that files do not have an .extension
2023-01-15 16:16:05 <geekosaur> yeh, it just uses the names defined by X11
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2023-01-15 16:26:45 <Solid> liskin: oh, interesting; in that case you should just switch to *Loggers to have PRs for days :P
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2023-01-15 20:56:35 <geekosaur> wonder if I should clean up and package this hack: https://github.com/geekosaur/xmonad.hs/blob/skkukuk/xmonad.hs#L300-L311 (comment is wrong, it works now but needs cleanup)
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2023-01-15 21:11:27 <liskin> Solid: hacktoberfest is months away though
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2023-01-15 21:11:51 <liskin> Which reminds that they still didn't evaluate the maintainers activity it seems
2023-01-15 21:12:05 <liskin> Or just ran out of t-shirts
2023-01-15 21:15:39 <vrs> hmm what could be causing xmobar to suddenly ignore all font configuration?
2023-01-15 21:15:57 <vrs> I seem to have apt-upgraded it, did they break something?
2023-01-15 21:17:48 <liskin> Some might consider switching to pango as breaking everything :-)
2023-01-15 21:18:22 <liskin> Especially those who use bitmap fonts and their distro doesn't ship OpenType versions of them
2023-01-15 21:18:35 <liskin> (not sure if any distro does)
2023-01-15 21:19:09 <vrs> I configured it using xft so far
2023-01-15 21:19:30 <liskin> Yeah that code's gone
2023-01-15 21:19:36 <vrs> reeeee
2023-01-15 21:20:00 <vrs> I mean xft is janky but ignoring it without even so much as an error message?
2023-01-15 21:21:07 <geekosaur> https://ircbrowse.tomsmeding.com/browse/lcxmonad?id=103843#trid103843
2023-01-15 21:21:46 <geekosaur> read forward, there's some other nasty surprises
2023-01-15 21:24:52 <vrs> such as the bar sizes being pretty off suddenly
2023-01-15 21:28:58 <vrs> it's rendering to something smaller than the font size but reporting the old size to xmonad, afaict
2023-01-15 21:34:39 <vrs> hm "white" now means "white" for <> and "grey" for anything else
2023-01-15 21:34:52 <vrs> I don't like this
2023-01-15 21:36:55 <geekosaur> xmobar doesn't report anything to xmonad
2023-01-15 21:37:04 <geekosaur> what did you mean by that?
2023-01-15 21:37:13 <geekosaur> well, it reports its strut size
2023-01-15 21:38:03 <geekosaur> but that'll follow from some xmobar internal thing; I don't know how it picks its box size relative to the font, or even if it does or makes you pick a suitable font
2023-01-15 21:38:33 <vrs> "a bit confusingly, the styles and sizes come in reverse order after the families" what the shit
2023-01-15 21:38:40 <vrs> who cooked that up
2023-01-15 21:38:46 <geekosaur> that was the main nasty surprise
2023-01-15 21:38:54 <geekosaur> I was referring to
2023-01-15 21:40:40 <vrs> and yeah I was referring to the strut size
2023-01-15 21:41:35 <vrs> whatever it was reporting was inconsistent with what it was displaying
2023-01-15 21:42:16 <geekosaur> I don't think it can pick a box size from the font size because either it has to be able to parse and make sense of font specification strings instead of pushing that off onto pango, or it has to actually render some example text and check the resulting size
2023-01-15 21:43:08 <vrs> yeah I ended up fixing it by using TopH/BottomH instead of TopL/BottomL which I was using previously
2023-01-15 21:48:49 <vrs> seriously though font string specifications shouldn't take inspiration from heptapod A
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