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2021-10-11 19:55:30 <liskin> Oh does the shop actually still work?
2021-10-11 20:00:43 <mc47> It worked last summer
2021-10-11 20:03:26 <geekosaur> it appears to still be there. now, does it feed sponsors?
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2021-10-11 20:10:54 <geekosaur> you kbow, like make a $50 donation and get a free tshirt
2021-10-11 20:11:45 <Solid> it's probably just some printing on demand style shop
2021-10-11 20:11:52 f-a parts (f2a@f2a.jujube.ircnow.org) ()
2021-10-11 20:11:53 <geekosaur> yeh
2021-10-11 20:11:59 <Solid> will work for years to come, but I'm waiting until we have a new logo to get a shirt :P
2021-10-11 20:12:56 <mc47> Do we want to do that before or after the release? :p
2021-10-11 20:14:01 <Solid> mc47: I was thinking of announcing a logo contest with the new release
2021-10-11 20:15:03 <Solid> (I suppose that's a good way to spend some of that money, maybe it'll bring some talented artists to entering)
2021-10-11 20:15:43 <Solid> or whatever I wanted to say with that last sentence
2021-10-11 20:17:08 <liskin> geekosaur: it doesn't
2021-10-11 20:17:26 <liskin> I spent like half an hour researching how to do that and got nothing
2021-10-11 20:17:49 <geekosaur> oh well
2021-10-11 20:18:20 <liskin> We'd need someone to handle that stuff because physical products definitely mean VAT almost everywhere in the world
2021-10-11 20:20:22 <mc47> sounds like a good plan
2021-10-11 20:21:10 <geekosaur> we'd have to get enough donations to cover it though
2021-10-11 20:21:46 <geekosaur> was kinda hoping there was a way to do it in reverse, have order/print place handle VAT plus kick $5 or so back to us
2021-10-11 20:21:54 <geekosaur> but I suspect this is uncommon
2021-10-11 20:23:05 <liskin> I think there must be something that does it. Open Collective docs mention it.
2021-10-11 20:23:21 <liskin> But it's not as easy as OC/GH
2021-10-11 20:23:26 <liskin> So I gave up :-)
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2021-10-11 20:54:53 <jakefromstatefar> Speaking of...
2021-10-11 20:54:54 jakefromstatefar uploaded an image: (26KiB) < https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/jupiterbroadcasting.com/ZyyrVNqdmDHHFMOObYbGsFez/image.png >
2021-10-11 20:54:55 <jakefromstatefar> Thoughts?
2021-10-11 20:55:04 <jakefromstatefar> Not sure if I like the slight red.
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2021-10-11 21:55:13 <cjb> jakefromstatefar: I am using pipewire-alsa, the version of pipewire I have is 0.3.36, and xmobar crashes on login if I use the 'Alsa Mixer Element' i.e. the one that doesn't do polling.
2021-10-11 21:56:16 <cjb> I ran into another bug with pipewire-alsa, it reports 0% to 50% volume as 0% to 4%, making it very hard to fine tune the volume if you do jumps by 2%, might be my hardware though
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2021-10-11 22:16:06 <jakefromstatefar> Yeah, looks specific to something in your setup. It works fine for me.
2021-10-11 22:16:11 <jakefromstatefar> looks like*
2021-10-11 22:20:27 <davve> jakefromstatefar: reminds me a lot of haskell logo
2021-10-11 22:27:59 <jakefromstatefar> Indeed.
2021-10-11 22:31:12 <geekosaur> yeh, I actually didn't like that part because it screams haskell to me, not xmonad
2021-10-11 22:31:45 <geekosaur> at least the current one has an X11 logo as part of it
2021-10-11 22:37:06 jakefromstatefar uploaded an image: (26KiB) < https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/jupiterbroadcasting.com/pJfjnaiyYiomHeSslWFSxDoo/image.png >
2021-10-11 22:37:15 <jakefromstatefar> What, then of this?
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2021-10-11 22:37:52 <jakefromstatefar> Less haskell, more X
2021-10-11 22:38:05 <geekosaur> looks like a bit of a mismash to me. Sorry
2021-10-11 22:38:32 <geekosaur> graphic designers make $$$$ for a reason: coming up with clean recognizeable designs is *hard*
2021-10-11 22:38:41 geekosaur has been there
2021-10-11 22:42:08 <jakefromstatefar> Hm, idk, looks clean to me, but alas, your opinion differs, and you've more say. 🤷
2021-10-11 22:42:39 <geekosaur> "recognizeable" was the problem there. Like I said, mishmash
2021-10-11 22:43:04 <geekosaur> the X was sort-of there, the >>= kinda got split up and lost
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2021-10-11 22:44:55 <geekosaur> tbh I have similar problems with the current haskell logo: too clever, and the lambda kinda gets swallowed up by the >>=
2021-10-11 22:46:44 <jakefromstatefar> Hm. IDK, I thought it nice, because it was really clever. Most people using Haskell &/or XMonad are going to be somewhat intellectual. If it strikes them as clever (at least, this' how my brain functions) then they're more likely to remember it.
2021-10-11 22:46:48 <geekosaur> sadly, this doesn't mean I have a good idea of how to design a better one
2021-10-11 23:14:03 <davve> cant it be a cute animal mascot like tux?
2021-10-11 23:15:08 <geekosaur> have to find one ORA hasn't trademarked :/
2021-10-11 23:19:15 <geekosaur> (iirc perl went through that and ended up picking a different mascot because they couldn't simply use the camel)
2021-10-11 23:22:04 <geekosaur> jakefromstatefar, to be honest your second try makes me think of the old Commodore logo
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2021-10-12 02:14:07 <jakefromstatefar> I'm working on the tree rewrite. I've started constructing data types, so far it's going great...
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