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2022-01-06 07:36:51 <Solid> dirtcastle: you can use ' instead of " for -F
2022-01-06 07:37:04 <Solid> spawnOn "6" "emacs --daemon && emacsclient -nc -s 'bkk' -F '(quote (name . \"emacsbkkk\"))'"
2022-01-06 07:44:58 <dirtcastle> if i run this in bash with ' it should work right ? it doesn't. using. backslashes also doesn't work.
2022-01-06 07:49:37 <Solid> it does not? `emacsclient -nc -s 'bkk' -F '(quote (name . \"emacsbkkk\"))'` works for me
2022-01-06 07:49:53 <Solid> (btw, instead of `emacs --daemon &&` you can give `-a ''` to emacsclient)
2022-01-06 07:55:38 <dirtcastle> oh. are u using backticks?
2022-01-06 07:57:22 <dirtcastle> Invalid frame name -- not. a string or nil
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2022-01-06 08:07:21 <dirtcastle> for this emacsclient -nc -s 'bkk' -F '(quote (name . \"emacsbkkk\"))'
2022-01-06 08:15:32 <Solid> in the shell directly you don't need to escape the quotes
2022-01-06 08:15:39 <Solid> which is probably what it's getting hung up on
2022-01-06 08:15:58 <Solid> (but in the haskell code you do since the whole thing is a string; i.e., in quotes already)
2022-01-06 08:18:15 <dirtcastle> oh great.
2022-01-06 08:20:22 <dirtcastle> instead of questioning, I should just copy paste stuff ig
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2022-01-06 08:34:57 <Hash> Ok hi
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2022-01-06 08:53:38 <dirtcastle> how to see error messages. I installed through pacman
2022-01-06 08:58:01 <Hash> pacman is a distro packet manager I think
2022-01-06 08:58:13 <Hash> so distro pckage should make everything go into ~/.xmonad/
2022-01-06 08:58:21 <Hash> Ther should be some log file there I think
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2022-01-06 10:03:16 <Solid> afaik pacman doesn't install xmessage (it's listed as an optional dependency)
2022-01-06 10:03:21 <Solid> so perhaps try installing that
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2022-01-06 10:43:17 <dirtcastle> Solid, I wrote a shell script for spawning emacsclient.
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2022-01-06 12:44:11 <dirtcastle> apparantly scratchpad is so hard to do? do i need to configure log hook ? (since I'm using xmobar) more steps are required than what is mentioned in the docs
2022-01-06 12:44:24 <dirtcastle> is there any article that will help
2022-01-06 12:45:05 <dirtcastle> I also use ezconfig abt which I know little of. but still followed through the doc properly. but still can't get it to working.
2022-01-06 12:47:46 <fizzie> I only use NamedScratchpad, but both it and the basic scratchpad (which I think is just a wrapper around NamedScratchpad) should only need the keybindings + the manageHook to function.
2022-01-06 12:48:02 <geekosaur> scratchpads shouldn't be tht difficult
2022-01-06 12:48:22 <dirtcastle> I use keybinding like this. : M-s t
2022-01-06 12:48:48 <dirtcastle> they are called KB_groups
2022-01-06 12:49:00 <dirtcastle> it seems
2022-01-06 12:49:25 <dirtcastle> should I get this kind of keybinding by default?
2022-01-06 12:49:49 <dirtcastle> it's like u press meta+ 's' and then t seperately.
2022-01-06 12:49:55 <dirtcastle> idk if this is normal
2022-01-06 12:49:57 <fizzie> I don't know about "KB_groups", but EZConfig's Emacs-style keybindings are _supposed_ to use XMonad.Actions.Submap automatically to support multi-key sequences, yes.
2022-01-06 12:50:11 <fizzie> (I think. I don't have any configured.)
2022-01-06 12:51:49 <fizzie> (XMonad.Actions.Submap is the "manual" way to do it, FWIW. But EZConfig additionalKeysP should generate those as needed, says the documentation.)
2022-01-06 12:53:25 <geekosaur> https://github.com/geekosaur/xmonad.hs/blob/skkukuk/xmonad.hs uses scratchpads and EZConfig, but not xmobar (but logs to xmonad-log-applet instead)
2022-01-06 12:53:38 <geekosaur> that said, it's not exactly a beginner config :)
2022-01-06 12:56:42 <Solid> dirtcastle: the docs for X.U.NamedScratchpad ( https://hackage.haskell.org/package/xmonad-contrib-0.17.0/docs/XMonad-Util-NamedScratchpad.html ) should tell you anything you need
2022-01-06 12:56:46 <Solid> you don't need a logHook
2022-01-06 13:03:28 <geekosaur> logHook is not for scratchpads, not for keybindings. it's for logging to a statusbar. if you're using xmobar, you may want a logHook at some point to customize what you send to it
2022-01-06 13:05:06 <Solid> sure but a priori xmobar has nothing to do with scratchpads (I think they are jumbling concepts here so it may be better to take things step by step)
2022-01-06 13:05:15 <geekosaur> yeh
2022-01-06 13:05:30 <geekosaur> trying to do too much at once
2022-01-06 13:05:57 <geekosaur> might be good to go through the tutorial once before trying to make a more advanced config
2022-01-06 13:08:46 <geekosaur> ahy, yep, was redone to use NamedScratchpads. and has a small doc bug because someone missed a reference to the old workspace :)
2022-01-06 13:10:23 geekosaur patches straight into master since it's a 1-letter fix
2022-01-06 13:10:33 <geekosaur> to a comment, even
2022-01-06 13:17:44 <dirtcastle> geekosaur, I have to go through config prime . ez config not so easy.
2022-01-06 13:19:05 <Solid> dirtcastle: go through the tutorial: https://xmonad.org/TUTORIAL.html
2022-01-06 13:19:11 <Solid> it should have everything you need
2022-01-06 13:19:11 <geekosaur> you used X.C.Prime? that's more or less inviting trouble. we should have moved that to -extras years ago for people to play with if they wanted to
2022-01-06 13:19:23 <Solid> and yeah, don't use X.C.Prime
2022-01-06 13:21:21 <dirtcastle> oh
2022-01-06 13:27:36 <geekosaur> it was an experiment that never went anywhere and practically nothing works with it
2022-01-06 13:28:07 <geekosaur> we should just mark it as deprecated and remove it in a few versions
2022-01-06 13:35:24 <Solid> +!
2022-01-06 13:35:25 <Solid> +1

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