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2022-05-23 16:30:18 <geekosaur> think I may have found a bug in 9.2.2, need to experiment more and then check ghc's issue tracker
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2022-05-23 16:31:39 <geekosaur> (import qualified XMonad.StackSet as W, then :doc either W.peek or XMonad.StackSet.peek, it claims the module has no documentation. but XMonad.Core does, and there should be no difference. I suspect qualified import is confusing it.)
2022-05-23 16:44:52 <geekosaur> hm, nope, it works for other modules. don't see what's different about X.StackSet
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2022-05-23 17:27:56 <geekosaur> Solid, can you access any documentation from XMonad.StackSet? I've been playing around with different combinations (partial imports, qualifieds, etc.) and only XMonad.StackSet is broken for me
2022-05-23 17:41:32 <Solid> geekosaur: yeah it works
2022-05-23 17:41:49 <Solid> if I run `stack ghci --ghci-options=-haddock` I can call `:doc peek` and it gives me the right docs
2022-05-23 17:41:53 <Solid> on 9.0.2
2022-05-23 17:42:06 <geekosaur> huh. so either I've done something wrong or cabal 3.6.2.0 is buggy
2022-05-23 17:45:22 <Solid> if I run `cabal repl --repl-options=-haddock` and then import XMonad.StackSet, :doc works as well
2022-05-23 17:45:43 <Solid> this is also with cabal-install 3.6.2.0
2022-05-23 17:45:52 <geekosaur> same version
2022-05-23 17:46:30 <geekosaur> difference might be I had things built without and then dropped `package *\n ghc-options: -haddock` into cabal.package
2022-05-23 17:46:54 <geekosaur> I'm not sure it's enough to use --repl-options since I think this stuff has to be written to the .hi during compile
2022-05-23 17:47:45 <Solid> it does recompile the modules before loading them
2022-05-23 17:47:48 <geekosaur> unless it's compiling to bytecode when you do that
2022-05-23 17:48:05 <geekosaur> mm, right, I'm working from a directory with an xmonad.hs in it and it's compiling that
2022-05-23 17:48:37 <Solid> oh right, I should try that, I was in the xmonad directory directly
2022-05-23 17:48:40 <geekosaur> xmonad and -contrib are precompiled, supposedly recompiled with -haddock (and XMonad.Core and XMonad.Operations and XMonad.Actions.Search work)
2022-05-23 17:49:34 <geekosaur> in any case I no longer think this is a ghc issue but more likely pilot error of some kind
2022-05-23 17:49:54 <geekosaur> like my import issue with this same seytup which turned out to be missing `other-modules`
2022-05-23 17:56:36 <geekosaur> iiinteresting. `touch`ed StackSet.hs and it didn't get recompiled
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2022-05-23 18:17:12 <Hash> https://twitter.com/HashBorgir/status/1528800480629075968
2022-05-23 18:17:17 <Hash> Just gonna leave this right here.
2022-05-23 18:17:26 <Hash> I love the Xmonad community.
2022-05-23 18:17:43 <Hash> No matter how harsh the criticism, no matter how strong it is, it's taken well and in kind.
2022-05-23 18:17:58 <Hash> DWM, and Suckless people, man, they are just... I can't even.
2022-05-23 18:18:48 <Hash> No need to say anything mean or whatever just because they didn't like my criticism and booted me.
2022-05-23 18:18:59 <Hash> But just shows... and you know what I said?
2022-05-23 18:19:07 <Hash> Suckless software sucks until you patch it up and make it not suck.
2022-05-23 18:19:15 <Hash> Apparently, that's uncivil.
2022-05-23 18:19:22 <Hash> Long live Xmonad!
2022-05-23 18:27:45 <liskin> Haskell people are notoriously hard to offend :-)
2022-05-23 18:29:57 <Hash> Hey man, what's up
2022-05-23 18:39:52 <liskin> Vacation \o/
2022-05-23 18:54:20 <AntonioRomano[m]> Can you please suggest me a good Xmonad (optionally xmobar also) that acts as a good quick dive in for creating my personal config?
2022-05-23 18:54:34 <Hash> Eh?
2022-05-23 18:54:41 <AntonioRomano[m]> * good Xmonad config (optionally xmobar
2022-05-23 18:54:44 <Hash> Liek a sample config?
2022-05-23 18:54:59 <Hash> google for "site:github.com xmonad.hs"
2022-05-23 18:55:34 <Hash> insite:github.com xmonad.hs
2022-05-23 18:55:38 <Hash> site or insite either I dunno
2022-05-23 18:56:07 <Hash> https://wiki.haskell.org/Xmonad/Config_archive check this too
2022-05-23 18:56:50 <AntonioRomano[m]> Hash: This works better than GitHub's built in search wow
2022-05-23 18:57:29 <geekosaur> there's something wrong with the built in search: we don't show up in that, for example
2022-05-23 18:57:42 <geekosaur> discovered that last week
2022-05-23 18:57:52 <geekosaur> I presume some index somewhere is broken
2022-05-23 19:02:25 <Hash> Yeah, I use google mostly.
2022-05-23 19:02:27 <Hash> :)
2022-05-23 19:02:38 <Hash> Google also, 'advanced google search tricks/tips' etc.
2022-05-23 19:04:05 <Solid> I mean, people are doing this in their free time; I can't imagine anyone being happy with "your software sucks"
2022-05-23 19:04:23 <Hash> Well, if you call your software suckless
2022-05-23 19:04:27 <Hash> it means it still sucks, but less.
2022-05-23 19:04:35 <Hash> I said, suckless sucks until you patch it up and make it not suck.
2022-05-23 19:04:45 <Hash> That's hardly a mean or out of line thing to say.
2022-05-23 19:05:01 <Solid> probably not
2022-05-23 19:05:06 <Solid> but I wasn't there either so I dunno
2022-05-23 19:05:12 <Hash> I'd understand your point if I went there and liek a cunt, said, hey, your software sucks
2022-05-23 19:05:16 <Hash> Then yeah, I'd be the cunt.
2022-05-23 19:05:20 <Hash> Totally agree.
2022-05-23 19:05:54 <geekosaur[m]> Drop the "c" word please
2022-05-23 19:06:25 <Hash> Ok.
2022-05-23 19:06:28 <Hash> but you must be American.
2022-05-23 19:06:32 <Hash> to take offense to that word.
2022-05-23 19:06:35 <Solid[m]> cidra_[m]: the tutorial is a pretty good start, imo ( matter how harsh the criticism, no matter how strong it is, it's taken well and in )
2022-05-23 19:06:36 <Hash> Cultural differences.
2022-05-23 19:06:50 <Solid[m]> woops, I meant to paste https://xmonad.org/TUTORIAL.html
2022-05-23 19:07:54 <Solid> also interesting: cidra_ does not seem to be getting through the bridge?
2022-05-23 19:08:27 <geekosaur[m]> Also not seeing them
2022-05-23 19:09:19 <AntonioRomano[m]> Solid: What do you mean?
2022-05-23 19:10:11 <Solid> oh, the nick just changes
2022-05-23 19:10:28 <Solid> nvmd then :)
2022-05-23 19:10:37 <Solid> but, really, check out the tutorial for a base config!
2022-05-23 19:11:11 <geekosaur[m]> Ohh right I see them in backscroll now
2022-05-23 19:11:53 <geekosaur[m]> And yes we have a tutorial in addition to the configs you can find on GitHub
2022-05-23 19:12:52 <AntonioRomano[m]> <slot-[m]> "cidra_[m]: the tutorial is a..." <- I've already read it and did whatever is said, but it is pretty small and basic, that's why I am searching for some config online. This is also an opportunity for me to learn some Haskell by reading and understanding some code :p
2022-05-23 19:13:46 <AntonioRomano[m]> The biggest challenge for me right now is to get a good grasp of the docs. It looks hard for me to navigate but I guess I'll get used to it
2022-05-23 19:24:08 <Solid> there are some of our configs at the end, but they may not be the easiest to read
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2022-05-24 00:24:11 <FernandoSchuindt> Hi there, folks. My first 24h with xmonad here, I should confess I thought it was going to be harder, but might be too soon to speak. Just a newbie question here, I'm calling some Bash scripts by adding them to the /usr/bin/ and calling them using spawn on the xmonad.hs. But I think it would be better to have those files into ~/.xmonad/shell_scripts/. I tried adding that directory to the PATH, but xmonad fails to find them. Any tips
2022-05-24 00:24:11 <FernandoSchuindt> here?
2022-05-24 00:25:03 <geekosaur> typically X11 startup doesn't read your dotfiles, so xmonad won't know your $PATH, only terminals will
2022-05-24 00:25:09 <geekosaur> (unless you use startx)
2022-05-24 00:26:24 <geekosaur> I use a wrapper script to start xmonad with the right PATH and other settings, since my xmonad is started by mate-session. others set it in .xsession, which is the more common way to start xmonad
2022-05-24 00:26:53 <geekosaur> `source ~/.profile` or `source ~/.bash_profile` as appropriate
2022-05-24 00:30:51 <[Leary]> FernandoSchuindt: If they're not intimately tied to xmonad but are shell scripts you might want to run in an interactive shell, I would put them in ~/.local/bin instead. If they *are* only used from xmonad, why pollute $PATH with them? Just run them with their full path.
2022-05-24 00:33:06 <geekosaur> there's also https://hackage.haskell.org/package/xmonad-contrib-0.17.0/docs/XMonad-Hooks-Script.html
2022-05-24 00:33:35 <geekosaur> although imo that's awfully silly when you could just spawn it

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