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2021-12-11 12:47:48 <aplainzetakind> Which module does it come from?
2021-12-11 12:48:26 <Solid> Graphics.X11.Xlib.Display
2021-12-11 12:48:35 <geekosaur> XMonad reexports it and getScreenInfo
2021-12-11 12:48:38 <Solid> oh but XMonad laso re-exports it
2021-12-11 12:49:08 <Solid> shouldn't you just be able to execute this in main? this might be the most painless way
2021-12-11 12:50:40 <geekosaur> well, point is I want to be able to find this out without the config in the way, just dumping server information as xmonad would receive it
2021-12-11 12:50:48 <aplainzetakind> [Rectangle {rect_x = 0, rect_y = 0, rect_width = 2560, rect_height = 1440}]
2021-12-11 12:51:06 <geekosaur> guh
2021-12-11 12:51:10 <aplainzetakind> Currently in arandr the monitors are laid out nested.
2021-12-11 12:51:36 <geekosaur> so you're getting one screen from xrandr
2021-12-11 12:51:51 <geekosaur> run xrandr on the command line to see what it says and pastebin the result
2021-12-11 12:51:56 <geekosaur> @where paste
2021-12-11 12:51:56 <lambdabot> Help us help you: please paste full code, input and/or output at e.g. https://paste.tomsmeding.com
2021-12-11 12:53:27 <aplainzetakind> http://dpaste.com//HQS8SQY97
2021-12-11 12:54:21 <aplainzetakind> The monitors are part of the same screen.
2021-12-11 12:54:35 <aplainzetakind> Pretty sure this is not an xmonad problem actually.
2021-12-11 12:55:20 <Solid> `Screen 0: minimum 320 x 200, current 2560 x 1440` tells me that it only recognises one monitor (the HDMI-2 one)
2021-12-11 12:56:13 <aplainzetakind> No, the "screen" is a composite thing.
2021-12-11 12:56:22 <aplainzetakind> Let me arrange the monitors side by side.
2021-12-11 12:56:59 <aplainzetakind> https://dpaste.com//2V57VH55F
2021-12-11 12:57:15 <aplainzetakind> See, it sets that screen to be the smallest rectangle containing both monitors.
2021-12-11 12:57:38 <Solid> yes, but 2560x1440 was only the second monitor before, no?
2021-12-11 12:57:59 <aplainzetakind> The first output was because I arranged the monitors to be nested in arandr.
2021-12-11 12:58:13 <Solid> oh
2021-12-11 12:58:14 <aplainzetakind> So The smallest rectangle was the bigger monitor.
2021-12-11 12:58:24 <aplainzetakind> Otherwise things are unusable.
2021-12-11 13:01:46 <geekosaur> hm. are they set to be mirrored?
2021-12-11 13:03:48 <aplainzetakind> Does that mean cloned?
2021-12-11 13:04:05 <geekosaur> yes
2021-12-11 13:04:14 <aplainzetakind> No.
2021-12-11 13:04:50 <aplainzetakind> They show portions of that abstract screen, however they are arranged.
2021-12-11 13:05:02 <geekosaur> so with the monitors no longer overlapping, try the getCleanedScreenInfo thing again
2021-12-11 13:06:12 <aplainzetakind> [Rectangle {rect_x = 0, rect_y = 0, rect_width = 6985, rect_height = 4881}]
2021-12-11 13:06:20 <aplainzetakind> Moved quite a bit apart.
2021-12-11 13:07:06 <aplainzetakind> I saw an SO question having this issue, edited to say that it got fixed after a system update with newer drivers.
2021-12-11 13:07:15 <aplainzetakind> Can't find it now unfortunately.
2021-12-11 13:07:52 <geekosaur> yeh, I'm thinking at this point it's a driver issue
2021-12-11 13:08:16 <aplainzetakind> Found this: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/63887202/xrandr-two-screens-different-resolution-without-invisible-area
2021-12-11 13:08:21 <geekosaur> xmjonad is not being told by the X server that there are two monitors
2021-12-11 13:08:47 <aplainzetakind> I have nouveau and i915.
2021-12-11 13:09:02 <aplainzetakind> I could switch which is in use in xorg.conf maybe?
2021-12-11 13:09:15 <aplainzetakind> Is that a viable approach?
2021-12-11 13:09:38 <geekosaur> it's worth trying
2021-12-11 13:12:02 <aplainzetakind> Is there a handholdy guide to get me through without having to grok the entire xorg configuration. I have next to no knowledge on how to do that.
2021-12-11 13:20:51 <geekosaur> not really
2021-12-11 13:21:04 <geekosaur> https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=243402 may help some
2021-12-11 13:21:18 <geekosaur> although it's arch-specific
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2021-12-11 15:04:45 <liskin> Solid: good!
2021-12-11 16:07:39 <Solid> huh, I didn't know we had X.C.Example
2021-12-11 16:08:01 <Solid> I wonder if this might be a good place to keep the tutorial config in
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2021-12-11 16:36:01 <noex> what would be the best way to arrange terminals in a certain configuration on different workspaces on startup?
2021-12-11 16:36:48 <noex> intuitively, i would think the startup hook, but that runs on restart
2021-12-11 16:37:46 <Solid> You can use spawnOnce (or spawnOnOnce) if you really only want to spawn these once per session
2021-12-11 16:38:03 <Solid> ( https://hackage.haskell.org/package/xmonad-contrib-0.17.0/docs/XMonad-Util-SpawnOnce.html#v:spawnOnce )
2021-12-11 16:40:13 <noex> nice, thanks. i'll give that a shot.
2021-12-11 16:42:03 <Solid> liskin: any more comments on https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad-contrib/pull/646/files ?
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2021-12-11 17:29:22 <MrElendig> or one of the workspace modules maybe
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2021-12-11 17:53:44 <liskin> Solid: looks all right last time I looked
2021-12-11 17:54:33 <Solid> coolio
2021-12-11 18:05:29 <liskin> Solid: thanks for taking care of all this and sorry for not being around much
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2021-12-11 18:06:26 <Solid> ah that's totally fine; mental health is definitely more important than xmonad :)
2021-12-11 18:06:44 <liskin> Oh it's not just mental this time :-)
2021-12-11 18:06:52 <liskin> Although who knows
2021-12-11 18:07:29 <Solid> Oh right, you also hand some hand troubles (hopefully not more! :o)
2021-12-11 18:07:30 <liskin> Maybe it's just my body telling me it's time for a proper break, and since the brain wouldn't listen otherwise... ;-)
2021-12-11 18:07:43 <liskin> Yeah just hands
2021-12-11 18:08:05 <liskin> Should be fine but I need to make sure it's well enough to not come back
2021-12-11 18:10:13 <Solid> yeah I developed RSI in my right hand while I was in high school and to this day I can't use mice of a certain shape because in the span of like five minutes my hand will cramp like crazy
2021-12-11 18:10:23 <Solid> shit is scary
2021-12-11 18:12:36 <liskin> Oh
2021-12-11 18:13:17 <liskin> I really really hope it just goes back to its original state :-/
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2021-12-11 18:14:22 <noex> i struggled with that really bad recently as well. it was frustrating, and i even saw a doctor who gave me no useful direction at all.
2021-12-11 18:14:26 <liskin> I tried moving Ctrl to CapsLock to relieve the pinky a bit but there's not much else I can do without seriously disrupting the way I use the laptop
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2021-12-11 18:15:30 <liskin> I'm seeing a physiotherapist next week. And by seeing I mean they booked a phone call. So... probably a waste of time? :-D
2021-12-11 18:16:05 <noex> so i made a video on what steps i took to cure mine. i have no clue if it could help someone else and i'm sorry if it sucks, but I documented some things I did: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ub6bGTb9wpc
2021-12-11 18:16:36 <noex> definitely recommend looking at the linked video in the description
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2021-12-11 18:17:20 <Solid> Ah, a phone call, the best way to diagnose a physical symptom for sure! :D
2021-12-11 18:24:57 <liskin> noex: I'm hoping to not need a different keyboard (maybe naive but I haven't had trouble for several decades so maybe?) but those stretches look quite useful, I'll try those for a while, thanks!
2021-12-11 18:26:17 <ectospasm> I started using a Microsoft Natural Keyboard 4000 about 15 years ago. My RSI is barely noticeable since I switched.
2021-12-11 18:26:55 <ectospasm> I have numbness/tingling in my ulnar nerve, and since I started using that model keyboard I only notice the problem when I think about it.
2021-12-11 18:27:17 <noex> liskin: np at least for me those stretches were helpful - although at first quite painful...just take it gradually at first
2021-12-11 18:28:21 <liskin> noex: I tried those as I watched the video now and it was almost fine
2021-12-11 18:28:33 <liskin> But then I'm very flexible in the first place
2021-12-11 18:30:29 <liskin> There's some possibility my pain is related to the broken bone in my wrist that never grew back together. That would be a bit silly as it's not the easiest surgery to fix. :-/
2021-12-11 18:36:24 <noex> hard to say :/ hopefully the doc can give you some insight
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