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| 2021-11-13 10:25:03 | <M-elo-[m]> | Can someone helpme make the xmonad config I am using work again? It seems to be failing in |
| 2021-11-13 10:25:03 | <M-elo-[m]> | ```hs |
| 2021-11-13 10:25:03 | <M-elo-[m]> | activateLogHook (reader W.focusWindow >>= doF |
| 2021-11-13 10:25:03 | <M-elo-[m]> | logHook def |
| 2021-11-13 10:25:06 | <M-elo-[m]> | * Can someone helpme make the xmonad config I am using work again? It seems to be failing in... (full message at https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/libera.chat/b46dbcbb7c46fce9f9ccc0daf8aa3c96c382c301) |
| 2021-11-13 10:25:23 | <M-elo-[m]> | * Can someone helpme make the xmonad config I am using work again? It seems to be failing in:... (full message at https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/libera.chat/67e17e27e00c5582a92b7e1747df338babcf184d) |
| 2021-11-13 10:25:31 | <M-elo-[m]> | Huh code format is not working... |
| 2021-11-13 10:26:43 | <M-elo-[m]> | * Can someone helpme make the xmonad config I am using work again? It seems to be failing in:... (full message at https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/libera.chat/5c0f04e92c89b0ae6ce50fc064a1ec858b4a1c98) |
| 2021-11-13 10:27:10 | Mion | prefers a proper pastebin |
| 2021-11-13 10:27:33 | <M-elo-[m]> | Cannot, stuck in xsession |
| 2021-11-13 10:27:49 | <Mion> | gist works from cli |
| 2021-11-13 10:27:58 | <M-elo-[m]> | s/xsession/display manager atm due to amdgpu crap/ |
| 2021-11-13 10:28:10 | <M-elo-[m]> | I sent the whole code file though |
| 2021-11-13 10:28:12 | <Mion> | so does rs and other sites |
| 2021-11-13 10:28:33 | <M-elo-[m]> | it's in the github repo |
| 2021-11-13 10:28:38 | <Mion> | yea could have just posted that instead of having to go trough the silly matrix bridge link and copy paste the link from the text |
| 2021-11-13 10:29:22 | <Mion> | full error would also be helpfull |
| 2021-11-13 10:29:27 | <M-elo-[m]> | Oh crap... forgot about how the bridge worked again |
| 2021-11-13 10:29:31 | <M-elo-[m]> | Sorry about that |
| 2021-11-13 10:29:56 | <Mion> | and which version of xmonad(-contrib) this is |
| 2021-11-13 10:30:17 | <M-elo-[m]> | 17.0-9 due to conditionalLayouts |
| 2021-11-13 10:30:46 | <M-elo-[m]> | Error says variable not in scope activateLogHook and I assume it's because of recent change |
| 2021-11-13 10:33:27 | <M-elo-[m]> | Variable not in scope: |
| 2021-11-13 10:33:28 | <M-elo-[m]> | activateLogHook |
| 2021-11-13 10:33:28 | <M-elo-[m]> | :: Query (Endo (W.StackSet i0 10 sd0)) -> X () |
| 2021-11-13 10:33:28 | <M-elo-[m]> | Then line number |
| 2021-11-13 10:36:54 | <M-elo-[m]> | I think I should replace it with setEwmhActivateHook` but idk how exactly, still learning haskell |
| 2021-11-13 10:40:13 | <Mion> | you can probably simply get rid of it, if you want it to focus the window |
| 2021-11-13 10:41:03 | <Mion> | if you don't* |
| 2021-11-13 10:41:29 | <Mion> | but yea seems like setEwmhActivateHook is the new replacement |
| 2021-11-13 10:43:19 | <Mion> | https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad-contrib/commit/08ec79eec1dd1cd5d571ee6b241a9c9673e3da80#diff-cf9308345d1d5de4c1e403c5874d91d723ffc5d4ff79b21c4dbfe6390a592598L42 |
| 2021-11-13 10:46:42 | <M-elo-[m]> | Will do that for now then, appreciate it |
| 2021-11-13 10:47:16 | <M-elo-[m]> | (That's what I had done initially but it somehow crashed amdgpu every single second) |
| 2021-11-13 10:47:29 | <M-elo-[m]> | I think something might he wrong with my kernel though 🤔 |
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| 2021-11-13 18:02:44 | <Solid> | liskin: ah I see |
| 2021-11-13 18:03:13 | <Solid> | this seems "doable" but also an area that I have _absolutely_ no idea about |
| 2021-11-13 18:03:28 | <Solid> | fingers crossed that mc47 finds the time to work on this at some point, I suppose :) |
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| 2021-11-13 18:08:01 | <Phandal> | Hey |
| 2021-11-13 18:08:24 | <liskin> | Solid: I've kind of given up on HF helping us with the funding situation so it's not really a pressing issue for me now, tbh |
| 2021-11-13 18:09:07 | <liskin> | and I wonder what other things they might help us with then, or what our relationship will be about in general? |
| 2021-11-13 18:09:48 | <liskin> | I imagine the only interaction we'll have with them over the next year may very well be "we've migrated our content off the wiki you can delete it now kthxbye" |
| 2021-11-13 18:10:51 | <Solid> | yeah I wasn't really thinking in terms of them helping us with funding |
| 2021-11-13 18:11:25 | <Solid> | It's more of a "oh here's this foundation that's supposed to push Haskell forward and here's a well-known project and they kinda like each other" |
| 2021-11-13 18:11:56 | <Solid> | (plus, I think that a GOVERNANCE.md would perhaps even be good for the project :)) |
| 2021-11-13 18:12:35 | <liskin> | yeah, signalling, perhaps, but it's a very weak signal at this point |
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| 2021-11-13 18:14:12 | <liskin> | and the chats I had with them didn't signal much of "like each other", it was more of a "if you have an idea of something that we do and would do regardless of you but which looks beneficial to you, then by all means feel free to interpret it as an act of good will" |
| 2021-11-13 18:14:43 | <liskin> | anyway, you're absolutely right about the governance docs being useful of themselves |
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| 2021-11-13 18:15:09 | <liskin> | it's certainly something we might need to align expectations about the future and how we spend the donations |
| 2021-11-13 18:21:25 | <geekosaur> | HF might not want to be seen as favoring specific projects |
| 2021-11-13 18:22:30 | <liskin> | that probably makes sense; perhaps I just overestimated the value of xmonad in today's Haskell community |
| 2021-11-13 18:22:57 | <geekosaur> | seems to still be popular, but it's not like everyone who uses Haskell runs it |
| 2021-11-13 18:23:13 | <liskin> | the Haskell Language Server definitely does get some PR benefits out of HF |
| 2021-11-13 18:23:26 | <liskin> | which is okay, because its goals are directly aligned with HF |
| 2021-11-13 18:23:29 | <geekosaur> | I'm just thinking of what happens if they support us and then hledger comes calling and says "but you supported them" |
| 2021-11-13 18:24:34 | <geekosaur> | HF is likely to go for stuff that supports or is seen to support the entire community |
| 2021-11-13 18:25:11 | <geekosaur> | so they might e.g. help with governance because that could easily be adopted by other projects, but i wouldn't expect financial support |
| 2021-11-13 18:26:12 | <liskin> | yeah, and I did think that xmonad helps the entire community by getting more people exicted about Haskell and by giving them motivation to learn Haskell and also the means to learn it, as our codebase is somewhat simple |
| 2021-11-13 18:26:31 | <liskin> | and I didn't expect them to actually financially support us, just help spread the message |
| 2021-11-13 18:26:58 | <liskin> | and even that was seen as asking too much, and I was disappointed at the time |
| 2021-11-13 18:27:03 | <geekosaur> | I'd expect more meta-support in that area, e.g. helping projects find and make use of financial resources |
| 2021-11-13 18:27:26 | <geekosaur> | spreading the message I wouldn't expect them tpo do, that's too much like supporting a specific project |
| 2021-11-13 18:33:12 | <liskin> | hm, what would that meta-support look like exactly? I have a hard time imagining what you mean |
| 2021-11-13 18:42:58 | <liskin> | anyway, open collective sends me e-mails sometimes offering some help |
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| 2021-11-13 18:43:22 | <liskin> | which makes sense because the better we do the more money they make |
| 2021-11-13 18:43:44 | <liskin> | might as well try to answer that e-mail sometime :-) |
| 2021-11-13 18:47:06 | <geekosaur> | more or less what they're doing plus things like tips on how to allocate funds to make best use of them |
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