Logs: liberachat/#xmonad
| 2021-10-28 07:53:44 | <Solid> | eyenx: ^ :) |
| 2021-10-28 07:55:56 | <Solid> | liskin: r.e. HN thread: that looks surprisingly uplifting; I'd definitely be willing to give people money in order to maintain xorg |
| 2021-10-28 07:57:08 | <liskin> | Solid: As in yourself or that we should redirect some of xmonad donations towards that? |
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| 2021-10-28 07:57:30 | <liskin> | (I have no idea what I think about that right now) |
| 2021-10-28 07:59:41 | <Solid> | I was speaking for myself, yes |
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| 2021-10-28 08:00:11 | <Solid> | though I don't have the idea of redirecting some of xmonad's donations towards the bigger goal |
| 2021-10-28 08:00:16 | <Solid> | s/have/hate/ |
| 2021-10-28 08:09:37 | <liskin> | hm, I think I don't hate the idea either, I'm just somewhat concerned that doing so involves quite a lot of transaction fees and that our sponsors might not approve of that waste |
| 2021-10-28 08:09:59 | <liskin> | but then anything involving money involves a lot of fees |
| 2021-10-28 08:10:23 | <liskin> | github org to org sponsor fees are nothing compared to taxes :-D |
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| 2021-10-28 08:16:04 | <Solid> | mh you're probably right with that |
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| 2021-10-28 08:40:11 | <FOSSHuman[m]> | I have been trying out Wayland on my hardware (Nvidia GPU) for the past couple of days and it seems Nvidia hasn't got their shit together yet with Wayland |
| 2021-10-28 08:40:25 | <FOSSHuman[m]> | I keep experiencing strange bugs in KDE Wayland etc.. |
| 2021-10-28 08:40:28 | <FOSSHuman[m]> | Very annoying |
| 2021-10-28 08:40:39 | <FOSSHuman[m]> | * in KDE on Wayland etc.. |
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| 2021-10-28 08:41:57 | <FOSSHuman[m]> | But I do like how Wayland works and the cool things that can be done with it, it also feels faster than Xorg when using KDE |
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| 2021-10-28 09:19:30 | liskin | just sent a mail to DT |
| 2021-10-28 09:19:34 | <liskin> | almost forgot about this yesterday |
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| 2021-10-28 09:45:30 | <alternateved> | liskin: so you did it after all |
| 2021-10-28 09:45:49 | <alternateved> | did you manage to keep a distance? |
| 2021-10-28 09:52:21 | <liskin> | alternateved: well I never said I wouldn't send the mail, I just acknowledged there might be controversy if _we_ signal boost _him_ :-) |
| 2021-10-28 09:52:36 | <liskin> | it's a bit unfair to say it this way though :-/ |
| 2021-10-28 09:59:57 | <Solid> | who's to say he doesn't start a video with "so the xmonad people reached out to me and..." |
| 2021-10-28 10:02:09 | <alternateved> | liskin: yeah, I was just curious how you are going to do that |
| 2021-10-28 10:02:43 | <alternateved> | I wonder how it will go now with him : D |
| 2021-10-28 10:05:39 | <liskin> | Solid: I hope it's not _that_ controversial :-) |
| 2021-10-28 10:06:48 | <liskin> | alternateved: I just sent a mail saying we have a release and that we'd appreciate a signal boost |
| 2021-10-28 10:06:56 | <alternateved> | Oh, I see. : ) |
| 2021-10-28 10:26:50 | <Arcanus[m]> | Nice |
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| 2021-10-28 11:38:43 | <Solid> | liskin: we should probably redo the stack configuration now so that it's actually usable for people outside of the CI again |
| 2021-10-28 11:41:47 | <FOSSHuman[m]> | Wait... Is 0.17 released??? |
| 2021-10-28 11:42:10 | <FOSSHuman[m]> | I might switch back to my distros packaging version of XMonad if that's the case.. |
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| 2021-10-28 11:43:24 | <FOSSHuman[m]> | nvm, I've deleted the 2 messages above this message for those on IRC |
| 2021-10-28 11:44:06 | <FOSSHuman[m]> | * this message (saying this for those, * on IRC) |
| 2021-10-28 11:48:26 | <Solid> | FOSSHuman[m]: it was released yesterday, yes :) |
| 2021-10-28 11:48:36 | <Solid> | https://xmonad.org/news/2021/10/27/xmonad-0-17-0.html |
| 2021-10-28 11:50:30 | <FOSSHuman[m]> | Solid: Very nice! I wonder when Arch upstream will be on the updated version |
| 2021-10-28 11:50:48 | <FOSSHuman[m]> | `community/xmonad 0.15-149 |
| 2021-10-28 11:50:48 | <FOSSHuman[m]> | Lightweight X11 tiled window manager written in Haskell` |
| 2021-10-28 11:51:26 | <FOSSHuman[m]> | https://archlinux.org/packages/community/x86_64/xmonad/ |
| 2021-10-28 11:51:33 | <FOSSHuman[m]> | Still on 0.15 |
| 2021-10-28 11:51:34 | <FOSSHuman[m]> | ? |
| 2021-10-28 11:51:39 | <geekosaur> | worrisome that they didn't even pick up 0.16 |
| 2021-10-28 11:52:05 | <geekosaur> | they've had 2 years |
| 2021-10-28 11:53:59 | <liskin> | geekosaur: they did: https://archlinux.org/packages/community/x86_64/xmonad-contrib/ |
| 2021-10-28 11:54:04 | <Solid> | geekosaur: xmonad 0.15 ;) |
| 2021-10-28 11:54:48 | <liskin> | Solid: yeah it's somewhere in my todos |
| 2021-10-28 11:55:08 | <geekosaur> | I guess the core didn't change enough, yeh |
| 2021-10-28 11:55:17 | <Solid> | the core didn't have a 0.16 at all :D |
| 2021-10-28 11:55:54 | <Solid> | (we skipped that in order to have version parity again, which I personally find quite pleasing) |
| 2021-10-28 11:55:56 | <geekosaur> | oh? guess I missed that |
| 2021-10-28 11:56:05 | <liskin> | Solid: although my primary motivation was to reenable testing against released core, didn't really expect people to actually use that stack.yaml :-) |
| 2021-10-28 11:56:41 | <Solid> | liskin: I do when I pull PRs locally and want to test them |
| 2021-10-28 11:56:54 | <Solid> | it's nice not having to fuss around with making ghcid or hls behave |
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| 2021-10-28 12:45:56 | <liskin> | I see. As long as you don't care about the resolver it probably works. |
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| 2021-10-28 12:47:31 | <liskin> | But then I wonder what exactly is wrong with the current stack.yaml... (I mean, not saying there's nothing, but I need to know what so that I can fix it properly) |
| 2021-10-28 12:55:21 | <Solid> | okay admittedly I do care about the resolver but it doesn't seem to work even disregarding that |
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| 2021-10-28 12:56:06 | <Solid> | I get http://ix.io/3Da3 which greatly confuses me because xmonad HEAD is definitely not on that version number |
| 2021-10-28 12:57:01 | <geekosaur> | mmm, right, at some point I should update everything |
| 2021-10-28 12:57:27 | <geekosaur> | wonder how hard it'll be to move my weird statusbar setup away from DynamicLog |
| 2021-10-28 12:59:12 | <liskin> | Solid: it's because stack caches it keyed by the url |
| 2021-10-28 12:59:25 | <liskin> | So it uses the first version it's seen |
| 2021-10-28 13:00:20 | <liskin> | Good, this isn't anything unexpected, so hardcoding released versions will be fine, which is what I planned |
| 2021-10-28 13:02:01 | <liskin> | And I'll try not to touch the resolver then. I might have been tempted to bump it otherwise (for no benefit to me or the CI), so I won't :-) |
| 2021-10-28 13:03:16 | <Solid> | liskin: bump away, I'm just upgrading everything to 8.10.7 actually :) |
| 2021-10-28 13:05:26 | <geekosaur> | hrm, I'm clearly doing something wrong. just got "Already up to date" from xmonad-contrib |
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| 2021-10-28 13:07:06 | <Solid> | pulling from your personal fork rather than xmonad/xmonad-contrib? |
| 2021-10-28 13:07:07 | <geekosaur> | oh right, it's pulling from mine |
| 2021-10-28 13:07:18 | <liskin> | Solid: okay :-) |
| 2021-10-28 13:07:52 | <liskin> | I wonder when, or if, 8.10 comes to Debian |
| 2021-10-28 13:08:01 | <liskin> | Anyway, siesta time |
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| 2021-10-28 13:09:33 | <geekosaur> | here goes nothing… |
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| 2021-10-28 13:17:24 | <geekosaur> | yay, updated |
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