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2021-09-05 13:33:03 <berserk> Sep 05 09:27:05 nixos xsession[21137]: /bin/sh: xmonad: command not found
2021-09-05 13:33:18 <berserk> So `spawnStatusBar` is def trying to do something
2021-09-05 13:37:01 <berserk> What happens if `spawnPID` encounters an error? Will that go to xmonad's
2021-09-05 13:37:05 <berserk> stderr?
2021-09-05 13:42:51 <geekosaur> yes
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2021-09-05 17:03:22 <dminuoso> Hi, is there some known plugin/method to manage XDG autostart applications?
2021-09-05 17:04:02 <geekosaur> not within xmonad, no
2021-09-05 17:04:41 <mc47> @tell berserk I'd try giving the path of the xmobar executable instead of just "xmobar". spawnStatusBar doesn't do anything fancy except keeping track of what's open, and I'd advise against using it on its own
2021-09-05 17:04:41 <lambdabot> Consider it noted.
2021-09-05 17:05:02 <dminuoso> geekosaur: Thanks for the prompt response!
2021-09-05 17:05:04 <dminuoso> Cheers.
2021-09-05 17:05:30 <dminuoso> Remind me to bring cookies if we ever meet in ZuriHac or some place.
2021-09-05 17:05:51 <dminuoso> Or some fine craft beer from a local microbrewery if you fancy that.
2021-09-05 17:22:08 <Solid> at this rate you're going to have to buy the whole channel a beer :P
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2021-09-05 17:37:24 <liskin> Might as well just boost our Github sponsors instead, dminuoso ;-)
2021-09-05 17:38:24 <liskin> Anyway, do have a look at my dotfiles perhaps. I launch xmonad via user systemd and xdg autostarts are hooked into that quite naturally
2021-09-05 17:39:02 <liskin> (Although my setup isn't natural at all as I tried to coerce the thing into handling multiple parallel X sessions)
2021-09-05 17:45:29 <liskin> (if all this sponsors stuff gets annoying please do tell me, I'll tone it down)
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2021-09-06 00:05:24 <liskin> Why did everyone go silent after I spoke? :-(
2021-09-06 00:14:46 <geekosaur> everyone went silent in every channel I'm in so I don't think it was you
2021-09-06 00:20:06 <liskin> Oh, good
2021-09-06 00:21:22 <liskin> geekosaur: did you see those mails about HF affiliation and stuff, btw?
2021-09-06 00:22:02 <geekosaur> yeh, altough I was kinda short in network during the week so they're kinda buried somewhere in my inbox
2021-09-06 00:22:57 <geekosaur> I still worry about the HF being more about corporate users than little folks like us
2021-09-06 00:28:44 <liskin> Yeah, I'm starting to worry too, and it's something folks are discussing these days at the Haskell discourse
2021-09-06 00:29:26 <liskin> We'll see where it goes I guess
2021-09-06 00:29:48 <liskin> Ideally everyone benefits
2021-09-06 00:30:21 <liskin> But getting any money flowing our way will be hard.
2021-09-06 00:31:35 <liskin> Getting any money flowing any way is always hard I guess. I sent an email to Andrew from the HF about this a couple days ago and he said getting those corporate sponsorships was a lot of work
2021-09-06 00:31:47 <geekosaur> yeh, tbh I consider this to be a bit of a long shot, xmonad is not the type of project likely to attract much in the way of sponsors
2021-09-06 00:33:24 <geekosaur> and xmonad in particular is not going to be very interesting to corporate users because they tend to prefer centralized configuration
2021-09-06 00:34:57 <liskin> Yeah. I thought some of those Haskell consultancies might do it just for publicity or because a high profile person there is a user or something
2021-09-06 00:35:31 <liskin> People used to say that xmonad is how they got into Haskell
2021-09-06 00:35:52 <liskin> But I feel like it's no longer as relevant as it used to be :-(
2021-09-06 00:37:45 <geekosaur> we've been silent for too long, hopefully kicking out a new release will help
2021-09-06 00:38:04 <liskin> Possibly
2021-09-06 00:38:23 <liskin> I'm not very good at this community building thing
2021-09-06 00:38:54 <geekosaur> nor am I, which really doesn't help much
2021-09-06 00:39:13 <liskin> I try to reach out to folks on Twitter sometimes or reddit, but it rarely leads anywhere
2021-09-06 00:39:47 <geekosaur> also, sadly, while xmonad got a bunch of folks into Haskell, that doesn't mean they stuck around the xmonad community
2021-09-06 00:39:59 <liskin> Having a high bar for contributions doesn't help either
2021-09-06 00:40:08 <liskin> But I can't help it :-(
2021-09-06 00:41:32 <liskin> Anyway, I need to sleep. Let's hope Tomas manages to get some donors and that I manage to finish the release soon :-)
2021-09-06 00:42:24 <geekosaur> indeed
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2021-09-06 05:28:09 <Solid> liskin: I don't think the HF would be a good way to attract money; additional publicity perhaps (although on the Haskell Discourse there was some discussion about how much of their budget should be spent on free software projects)
2021-09-06 05:30:34 <Solid> btw, should we set a deadline for the release? maybe work will be more coordinated that way :)
2021-09-06 06:11:14 <Hash> How do you restart xmobarrc
2021-09-06 06:11:32 <Hash> I just did meta+q to restart xmonad and something weird is happening, it's not showing up
2021-09-06 06:13:23 <Hash> RefreshRate: number of tenths of second between re-runs of the command. A zero or negative rate means that the command will be executed only once.
2021-09-06 06:13:33 <Hash> what, 1/10th of a sec
2021-09-06 06:13:35 <Hash> huh
2021-09-06 06:14:59 <Hash> Run Network "enp6s0" ["-t","Net: <rx>, <tx>","-H","200","-L","10","-h","#FFB6B0","-l","#CEFFAC","-n","#FFFFCC"] 10,
2021-09-06 06:15:15 <Hash> What does this mean? if refresh rate is '10', that means it's 1/10th of a second already?
2021-09-06 06:15:45 <Hash> Run Weather "KBDU" ["-t","<tempF>°F <skyCondition>","-L","64","-H","77","-n","#CEFFAC","-h","#FFB6B0","-l","#96CBFE"] 36000,
2021-09-06 06:15:53 <Hash> Weather is 36000
2021-09-06 06:18:46 <Hash> In this case xmobar will run the weather monitor, getting information for the weather station ID EGPF (Glasgow Airport, as a homage to GHC) every hour (36000 tenth of seconds), with a template that will output something like:
2021-09-06 06:18:56 <Hash> I see
2021-09-06 06:19:28 <Hash> So whatever you want * 10 should be specified here. ok

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