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2023-06-11 11:46:14 <cotan> Hello! I've spent some time to freshen up my decades old xmonad setup. All almost good now. I found out I had to patch the plasma framework (xmonad issue 174), and now that step is automatic \o/
2023-06-11 11:47:36 <cotan> also switched to XMonad.Action.PhysicalScreen to avoid the weirdness of seemingly random order for {w,e,r}. Plus using XMonad.Hooks.Place's placeHook for notification.
2023-06-11 11:48:38 <cotan> The only thing left... sometimes plasma decides to restart itself or something, and when that happens all the window disappear, only the plasma stuff shows up. spawning a new window and dragging it over all the workspaces forces the existing window to be redrawn.
2023-06-11 11:48:50 <cotan> I'm looking for a way to not have to do that manually anymore.
2023-06-11 11:49:06 <geekosaur> that's … weird
2023-06-11 11:49:10 <cotan> always happened
2023-06-11 11:49:14 <cotan> since using plasma.
2023-06-11 11:50:29 <geekosaur> does mod-n help?
2023-06-11 11:50:30 <cotan> is there a way to tell XMonad to place go over all the existing windows and make sure they are redrawn once or whatever the correct terminology is?
2023-06-11 11:50:42 <cotan> (googles what mod-n is supposed to do)
2023-06-11 11:50:43 <geekosaur> (force refresh)
2023-06-11 11:50:58 <cotan> aha
2023-06-11 11:51:12 <cotan> uhm next thing it happens I'll try that.. maybe I can force it happening, let's see
2023-06-11 11:52:46 <cotan> nope, mod-n doesn't help
2023-06-11 11:53:25 <geekosaur> tbh if dragging a window over things makes them redraw properly that sounds like either video driver or compositor
2023-06-11 11:53:38 <geekosaur> not sure xmonad can help in that case
2023-06-11 11:55:50 <cotan> no compositor running
2023-06-11 11:56:02 <cotan> might be video driver yeah
2023-06-11 11:56:29 <geekosaur> I thought plasma had its own compositor
2023-06-11 11:56:54 <cotan> well yeah, but that's part of kwin
2023-06-11 11:56:59 <cotan> and xmonad replaces kwin
2023-06-11 11:57:23 <geekosaur> might be worth running compton/picom then and see if it helps
2023-06-11 11:57:32 <cotan> played a bit with picom but decided to stick with xcompmgr, much easier, and I bind a key to a script that toggles it.
2023-06-11 11:58:51 <cotan> toggling xcompmgr on did at least redraw the terminal on the focused workspace, nothing else though
2023-06-11 12:01:24 <geekosaur> mm, I have to think that means video driver problems 😞
2023-06-11 12:11:05 <cotan> at least it doesn't crash that much, at least on the desktop where the monitors setup doesn't change that often.
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2023-06-11 20:04:37 <johnabs[m]> Hi all, I have a question about getting xmobar to behave the way I want to across multiple monitors, which was working before the 0.17.0 update, but is no longer working. If anyone has a moment, I've included a reddit [thread](https://www.reddit.com/r/xmonad/comments/146jns3/issue_after_update_workspaces_are_not_being/) that I think documents the issue. Thank you very much for any help you guys are willing/able to provide, I seriously
2023-06-11 20:04:37 <johnabs[m]> appreciate it since I'm pretty new to haskell 😁
2023-06-11 20:05:21 <johnabs[m]> * Hi all, I have a question about getting xmobar to behave the way I want to across multiple monitors, which was working before the 0.17.0 update, but is no longer working. If anyone has a moment, I've included a reddit [thread](https://www.reddit.com/r/xmonad/comments/146jns3/issue_after_update_workspaces_are_not_being/) that I think documents the issue. Thank you very much for any help you guys are willing/able to provide, I seriously
2023-06-11 20:05:21 <johnabs[m]> appreciate it since I'm pretty new to haskell 😁
2023-06-11 20:05:21 <johnabs[m]> Oh, and one thing, I fixed the initial issue, the current issue is in the second comment.
2023-06-11 20:09:00 <geekosaur> yes, statusBarProp will use the same property for both bars *and* xmobar is probably using the same property for both
2023-06-11 20:11:54 <geekosaur> change one of them to use `statusBarPropTo "somePropertyNameHere"` and in the `.xmobarrc` for the second xmobar you must use `Run XPropertyLog "somePropertyNameHere"` (and `%somePropertyNameHere%` in the `template`)
2023-06-11 20:13:18 <geekosaur> (pick a reasonable property name to use in place of "somePropertyNameHere", but use the same name in all the places I identified)
2023-06-11 20:15:04 <johnabs[m]> Thank you for the quick response! I'll give it a shot shortly and report back 😁
2023-06-11 20:45:41 <johnabs[m]> So I tried the following with no dice: I defined these two:... (full message at <https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/libera.chat/f35249a7908b06c7569d5ea9052400afd7a3f251>)
2023-06-11 20:48:20 <geekosaur> I think I'll have to hand you off to someone who knows xmobar configuration better; I don't use it
2023-06-11 20:48:46 <johnabs[m]> Ah, fair, thank you so much for your help so far! :)
2023-06-11 20:48:52 <geekosaur> I know the basics of StatusBar but I use xmonad-log-applet over dbus
2023-06-11 20:51:23 <johnabs[m]> Gotcha, I usually use other languages entirely, but xmonad is the most stable and has all the features I want so I try to work with it even though when the devs change stuff and I have to spend time fixing it 😅
2023-06-11 20:52:06 <geekosaur> you could have kept using the old way
2023-06-11 20:52:44 <geekosaur> I think you'd at some point import XMonad.Hooks.StatusBar.PP instead of XMonad.Hooks.DynamicLog
2023-06-11 20:53:36 <johnabs[m]> I was originally using DynamicLog and tried using StatusBarPP but it failed to compile after the update (which I wouldn't have updated if I knew there would be breaking changes but, such is life 😅)
2023-06-11 20:54:30 <geekosaur> I think you have to yell at Solid if things broke 🙂
2023-06-11 20:56:46 <johnabs[m]> I'll think about yelling after it gets fixed, otherwise I might be up a creek 😂
2023-06-11 20:59:46 <johnabs[m]> Also, I fixed the issue of incorrect display, now I just need a way to hide the monitor number, and the workspaces from the other screen, so I'm slowly making progress! :)
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2023-06-11 21:59:18 <ChaoticMist[m]> Solidcame across your `XMonad.Util.Run` post (https://tony-zorman.com/posts/calling-emacs-from-xmonad.html) and thought that was an interesting thing which I have been missing out on. But now I am confused about how I should integrate it with my old scratchpad setup.... (full message at <https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/libera.chat/75ae451df1829c4025c3723e2caf7e48fd30528a>)
2023-06-11 22:03:05 <ChaoticMist[m]> Error:... (full message at <https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/libera.chat/ed3bdd4fe7588f25248dfd9624be4328580e5ebd>)

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