Logs: liberachat/#xmonad
| 2022-02-15 11:32:56 | <Solid> | Profpatsch: nix the package manager is also shipping old versions of xmonad (because stackage) right now so... the only choice you have there is to install from source as well :> |
| 2022-02-15 11:33:53 | <Solid> | (granted, there is a flake, but I still fail to see the utility of that over just issuing `stack build` even on nixos, especially because using local versions of xmonad and xmonad-contrib to build one's config seems non-trivial with the former) |
| 2022-02-15 11:37:37 | <liskin> | Profpatsch: I still keep hearing horror stories of unrecoverable errors with btrfs :-/ |
| 2022-02-15 11:38:13 | <liskin> | almost started thinking about switching on the next opportunity (laptop/ssd replacement), but I'd like to have like a year or two without anyone around me having an issue with it |
| 2022-02-15 11:39:01 | <liskin> | I'd love copy on write and compression and subvolumes though |
| 2022-02-15 11:39:16 | geekosaur | wants zfs dammit |
| 2022-02-15 11:39:57 | <liskin> | btw I'm back to debugging xmobar's leak today |
| 2022-02-15 11:40:07 | <liskin> | hp2pretty has been running for the last 10 minutes :-D |
| 2022-02-15 11:43:18 | <liskin> | and now I got a 200M svg file, brilliant :-) |
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| 2022-02-15 12:04:47 | <Solid> | hah |
| 2022-02-15 12:05:07 | <geekosaur> | hp2ugly |
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| 2022-02-15 12:57:30 | <liskin> | hp2black actually :-) |
| 2022-02-15 12:58:00 | <liskin> | (no place for fill behind all that stroke) |
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| 2022-02-15 14:00:08 | <Profpatsch> | liskin: I think btrfs is a lost cause at this point, all manpower is in zfs and the new whatsitcalled |
| 2022-02-15 14:00:11 | <Profpatsch> | bcachefs? |
| 2022-02-15 14:07:23 | <liskin> | who develops zfs these days? Oracle? or is that a community project now? |
| 2022-02-15 14:07:56 | <geekosaur> | community project.freebsd contributes a lot, sinceit's their main filesystem these days |
| 2022-02-15 14:08:52 | <geekosaur> | main reason linux didn't adopt it is they want that oh so pure GPL licensing thing, but ZFS is BSD licensed |
| 2022-02-15 14:09:51 | <geekosaur> | or at least BSD compatible; I haven't checked details |
| 2022-02-15 14:10:03 | <liskin> | oh |
| 2022-02-15 14:10:28 | <geekosaur> | there's been ways to use zfs with linux for a decade |
| 2022-02-15 14:10:51 | <geekosaur> | but never accepted into the kernel for license reasons |
| 2022-02-15 14:11:04 | <Profpatsch> | geekosaur: I thought there was a libre reimpl in the kernel? |
| 2022-02-15 14:11:17 | <Profpatsch> | that is the de-facto standard now? |
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| 2022-02-15 14:55:38 | <Benzi-Junior> | Hey, I have a possibly ambitious (read, foolhardy) idea but was wondering if someone had done something like it before, is it possible to dedicate a workspace to a VM |
| 2022-02-15 14:57:24 | <geekosaur> | in what sense? |
| 2022-02-15 15:00:07 | <geekosaur> | we have TopicSpaces, for example |
| 2022-02-15 15:01:33 | <Benzi-Junior> | so I haven't really thought this all the way through, but something like, when Xmonad starts one of the workspaces has virt-viewer as its base window, |
| 2022-02-15 15:05:56 | <Benzi-Junior> | I haven't fully thought about how I want this to behave when it comes to controling inputs, and there may be an obvious reason for this being a terrible idea |
| 2022-02-15 15:06:28 | <Benzi-Junior> | because odds are I'm going to want to be runnig xmonad on the VM as well |
| 2022-02-15 15:13:00 | <liskin> | what works for me is just using fullscreen in virt-manager and then moving the mouse into the top minipanel whenever I need to press the keybinding to move to another desktop |
| 2022-02-15 15:13:16 | <liskin> | (moving the mouse releases the keyboard grab, iirc) |
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| 2022-02-15 15:16:01 | <geekosaur> | I think you need to come back when you have a better idea of what you want. So far it just sounds like https://hackage.haskell.org/package/xmonad-contrib-0.17.0/docs/XMonad-Util-SpawnOnce.html#v:spawnOnOnce (note that you need manageSpawn from XMonad.Actions.SpawnOn; this documentation oversight is fixed in git) |
| 2022-02-15 15:20:43 | <geekosaur> | when I was running on a machine with enough oomph to run vmware workstation, moving the mouse into the menubar was enough to release the grab. or even into the border, except I usually had the border disabled on that window |
| 2022-02-15 15:26:44 | <Benzi-Junior> | I think TopicSpaces might be pretty much what I'm looking for |
| 2022-02-15 15:30:06 | <geekosaur> | I think there's also an alternative to TopicSpaces these days? need to dig more |
| 2022-02-15 15:30:25 | <Solid> | there is, but I don't think it's as good |
| 2022-02-15 15:30:42 | <Solid> | DynamicProjects, AFAIR |
| 2022-02-15 15:33:35 | <geekosaur> | https://hackage.haskell.org/package/xmonad-contrib-0.17.0/docs/XMonad-Actions-DynamicProjects.html |
| 2022-02-15 15:33:37 | <geekosaur> | yeh |
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| 2022-02-15 16:14:12 | <Benzi-Junior> | taffybar has a nasty habit of locking up my system |
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| 2022-02-15 16:16:38 | <liskin> | https://store.lisk.in/tmp/xmobar.svg - so I guess it's valgrind time /o\ |
| 2022-02-15 16:17:11 | <geekosaur> | *wince* |
| 2022-02-15 16:18:06 | <Solid> | this looks to me like there's no memleak there at all? |
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| 2022-02-15 16:19:59 | <geekosaur> | btw what version of ghc? iirc 9.0.x accounts PINNED memory better |
| 2022-02-15 16:20:53 | <geekosaur> | which in particular means ByteStrings get accounted to their owners better |
| 2022-02-15 16:22:08 | <liskin> | 8.8.4 :-( |
| 2022-02-15 16:22:45 | <liskin> | Solid: yeah but it grows in ps aux |
| 2022-02-15 16:23:26 | <geekosaur> | mm, rts memleak? :( |
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| 2022-02-15 16:27:49 | <liskin> | sounds unlikely, probably just a leak in some ffi code or something, no? |
| 2022-02-15 16:28:10 | <liskin> | anyway, looks like I just shot myself in the foot in a very archlinux-haskelly-way |
| 2022-02-15 16:28:41 | <liskin> | I should probably tell my systemd to try rebuilding xmonad when it fails to load :-) |
| 2022-02-15 16:31:00 | <geekosaur> | heh |
| 2022-02-15 16:32:34 | <Solid> | :D |
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| 2022-02-15 18:00:30 | <liskin> | hm, good, I can reproduce the leak using xev as well |
| 2022-02-15 18:00:37 | <liskin> | so it's in xlib, not in xmobar |
| 2022-02-15 18:00:42 | <liskin> | fun |
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| 2022-02-15 20:00:04 | <Solid> | https://discourse.haskell.org/t/zurihac-2022-takes-place-11-13-june-registration-now-open/4111 what's the over-under on some of us wanting to meet there? |
| 2022-02-15 20:03:34 | <twiclo2> | https://wiki.manjaro.org/index.php/Downgrading_packages |
| 2022-02-15 20:03:56 | <twiclo2> | This says I should be able to run pamac install downgrade but it's not working on my pinephone. Am I missing a repo? |
| 2022-02-15 20:04:59 | <twiclo2> | Woops wrong channel |
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| 2022-02-15 21:14:47 | <liskin> | Solid: yeah tentatively yes |
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