Logs: liberachat/#xmonad
| 2022-01-04 09:31:14 | <AIM[m]> | The file with only Config |
| 2022-01-04 09:32:03 | <dirtcastle> | ok. I'll try do xmobar config alone in that file once |
| 2022-01-04 09:32:15 | <AIM[m]> | Ya |
| 2022-01-04 09:32:41 | <AIM[m]> | I haven't got the hs file working |
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| 2022-01-04 11:19:09 | <dirtcastle> | i tried it. didn't work. he uses ubuntu. i use arch. i could be missing a step related to X11. |
| 2022-01-04 11:21:23 | <AIM[m]> | I use Arch only |
| 2022-01-04 11:21:38 | <AIM[m]> | You can try to get an example config first |
| 2022-01-04 11:21:47 | <AIM[m]> | Instead of writing from scratch |
| 2022-01-04 11:22:10 | <AIM[m]> | What error does it show? |
| 2022-01-04 11:22:29 | <AIM[m]> | Try running from terminal instead of automatically launching it from xmonad |
| 2022-01-04 11:22:49 | <AIM[m]> | That way the errors get thrown into the terminal output |
| 2022-01-04 11:24:41 | <geekosaur> | @where paste |
| 2022-01-04 11:24:41 | <lambdabot> | Help us help you: please paste full code, input and/or output at e.g. https://paste.tomsmeding.com |
| 2022-01-04 11:26:33 | <geekosaur> | although if you're on arch using a pacman-installed xmobar, I'm betting you need to build the xmobar config with -dynamic |
| 2022-01-04 11:28:10 | <AIM[m]> | It's better to get he Aur version of xmonad and xmobar |
| 2022-01-04 11:28:54 | <geekosaur> | probably still need it. arch haskell packaging is kinda broken |
| 2022-01-04 11:29:01 | <AIM[m]> | The pacman version is kinda back on updates (which is surprising coz Arch is supposed to be a rolling release). I guess the maintainers are too busy. |
| 2022-01-04 12:09:41 | <dirtcastle> | i didn't know they were outdated . I'll do it from official git repo. |
| 2022-01-04 12:34:10 | <dirtcastle> | Could not load module `Distribution.Simple' |
| 2022-01-04 12:34:10 | <dirtcastle> | It is a member of the hidden package `Cabal-3.4.0.0'. |
| 2022-01-04 12:34:10 | <dirtcastle> | You can run `:set -package Cabal' to expose it. |
| 2022-01-04 12:34:10 | <dirtcastle> | (Note: this unloads all the modules in the current scope.) |
| 2022-01-04 12:34:10 | <dirtcastle> | Use -v (or `:set -v` in ghci) to see a list of the files searched for. |
| 2022-01-04 12:34:10 | <dirtcastle> | | |
| 2022-01-04 12:34:10 | <dirtcastle> | 3 | > import Distribution.Simple |
| 2022-01-04 12:34:11 | <dirtcastle> | | ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ |
| 2022-01-04 12:34:11 | <dirtcastle> | ==> ERROR: A failure occurred in build(). |
| 2022-01-04 12:34:12 | <dirtcastle> | Aborting... |
| 2022-01-04 12:34:34 | <dirtcastle> | when downloading from aur |
| 2022-01-04 13:29:33 | <dirtcastle> | never mind |
| 2022-01-04 13:30:09 | <dirtcastle> | i installed through pacman . xmobarrc example config in archwiki is bugged |
| 2022-01-04 13:33:12 | <dirtcastle> | thanks your time guys. really appreciate it! |
| 2022-01-04 13:36:07 | <Solid> | dirtcastle: perhaps change that wiki article/alert someone who can? |
| 2022-01-04 13:42:47 | <dirtcastle> | Solid, I've never done that b4. I've pulled issues in git only. does that have a git page? |
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| 2022-01-04 14:24:30 | <Solid> | dirtcastle: I don't know, I don't use Arch |
| 2022-01-04 14:24:42 | <Solid> | but surely a wiki is editable by everyone (modulo a review process) |
| 2022-01-04 14:26:44 | <dirtcastle> | oh npnp. I'll search the internet. or else will ask in #archlinux irc |
| 2022-01-04 14:27:01 | <geekosaur> | iirc it's a mediawiki, it should have pretty good help |
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| 2022-01-04 17:00:51 | <dirtcastle> | can I use emacs as a scratchpad? |
| 2022-01-04 17:01:05 | <dirtcastle> | is it possible |
| 2022-01-04 17:02:28 | <geekosaur> | don't see why not. probably have to use NamedScratchpads rather than the simple scratchpad which is limited to windows you can name "scratchpad", then className =? "Emacs". main problem there is then using any emacs window for anything else |
| 2022-01-04 17:02:49 | <geekosaur> | would need some elisp hacking to get a specific emacs frame with a role you could match on |
| 2022-01-04 17:05:46 | <dirtcastle> | gotcha. I'll search a little more. |
| 2022-01-04 17:17:15 | <geekosaur> | might be easier to use an emacsclient running in a terminal, then just arrange for the terminal to not be a factory and use --name scratchpad (appName =? "scratchpad") |
| 2022-01-04 17:29:33 | <Solid> | dirtcastle: emacsclient supports the -F flag with which you can set the parameters of the spawned frame |
| 2022-01-04 17:31:04 | <Solid> | e.g. for an instance name you'd do something like -F "(quote (name . \"my-scratchpad\"))" |
| 2022-01-04 17:31:50 | <fizzie> | I've done an Emacs stratchpady thing. |
| 2022-01-04 17:31:55 | <fizzie> | I just keep forgetting to use it. |
| 2022-01-04 17:32:04 | <Solid> | (the instance name is the first string in WM_CLASS) |
| 2022-01-04 17:32:17 | <Solid> | I have like 4 Emacs scratchpads for different purposes |
| 2022-01-04 17:32:20 | <Solid> | very worth it :) |
| 2022-01-04 17:37:06 | <fizzie> | I do "emacsclient -a '' -e '(scratch-frame)'" to start one, (resource =? "scratch-emacs") to match one, and https://0x0.st/ozcF.txt on the Emacs side, and have completely forgotten most of what that's for -- it's probably much overcomplicated. |
| 2022-01-04 17:37:33 | <fizzie> | I think the idea was I could also toggle the scratchpad visibility over from Elisp for whatever reason, that's what sending the XMONAD_NSP_SHOW client event is doing. |
| 2022-01-04 17:37:52 | <fizzie> | It probably still works, but I still don't remember to use it. |
| 2022-01-04 17:45:18 | <dirtcastle> | Solid: Share config and save me from going through so much pain. I'll understand the emacsclient options from manual. |
| 2022-01-04 17:46:05 | <dirtcastle> | I literally took a screenshot of everything u guys said for reference. |
| 2022-01-04 17:49:03 | <dirtcastle> | thank you very much! |
| 2022-01-04 17:54:09 | <dirtcastle> | fizzie, i didn't understand that lisp code but I copied and make sense of it later. Thank you! |
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| 2022-01-04 18:02:24 | <Solid> | dirtcastle: the config itself is a little bit complicated because I have a little EDSL for spawning things and setting these names, but the basic command for emacsclient is `emacsclient -c -F "(quote (name . \"scratch-name\"))"` and you would then match on it in your scratchpad config with `appName =? "scratch-name"` |
| 2022-01-04 18:03:10 | <Solid> | in case you're wondering, -F sets the `default-frame-alist` variable (`C-h v default-frame-alist` for more information) |
| 2022-01-04 18:06:38 | <Solid> | fizzie: yeah the snippet seems to duplicate some scratchpad functionality in elisp |
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| 2022-01-04 18:07:24 | <Solid> | and most of this is actually dead code since I would imagine `scratch-frame` is only called for spawning the scratchpad (with managing being done by NamedScratchpads) |
| 2022-01-04 18:07:31 | <Solid> | but if it works it works so... :) |
| 2022-01-04 18:11:58 | <dirtcastle> | I'll remember to contact you for debugging :D |
| 2022-01-04 18:11:58 | <dirtcastle> | one of the reasons I asked was to see if I there are new features I am not aware of. |
| 2022-01-04 18:14:04 | <fizzie> | Solid: Oh, I remember what it's for -- the motivation was to allow opening a file in the scratch frame from the command line. So it's accompanied with a es() { e="${1/\\/\\\\}"; emacsclient -a '' -q -e '(scratch-frame "'"${e/\"/\\\"}"'")'; } bash function that does that. I don't remember to use it either. |
| 2022-01-04 18:15:38 | <Solid> | fizzie: ah, that makes sense |
| 2022-01-04 18:15:50 | <fizzie> | I don't remember why that was really any better than using the keybinding to bring up the scratchpad and open the file from there. Well, I guess it does respect the working directory of whatever terminal you run it in. |
| 2022-01-04 18:16:12 | <Solid> | maybe you would use it more often if it wasn't a general Emacs scratchpad but something more specific |
| 2022-01-04 18:19:10 | <fizzie> | I think pretty much what ended up happening is, I've got a screen session automatically opening in the terminal scratchpad, and the different screen windows of that session play the role of sort of more specific (but still slightly ephemeral) scratchpads, so I end up just using that one. |
| 2022-01-04 18:20:50 | <geekosaur> | yeh, I open "scratchpads" in my one big emacs frame and probably would forget to use another one |
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