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2021-10-17 21:47:05 <jakefromstatefar> I'm just wondering if there's a way to override ignored windows, so that under certain criteria, they're never displayed at all.
2021-10-17 21:48:50 <liskin> jakefromstatefar: https://xmonad.github.io/xmonad-docs/xmonad-contrib-0.16.999/XMonad-Hooks-ManageHelpers.html#v:doHideIgnore
2021-10-17 21:57:34 <geekosaur> "under certain criteria" seems like a problem, since there'd be no way to get them back without the app's active involvement
2021-10-17 21:59:40 <liskin> xdotool windowmap might help?
2021-10-17 22:00:13 <geekosaur> mm, maybe
2021-10-17 22:01:04 <geekosaur> as long as it's not override_redirect, where that might confuse the app since it expects to fully manage its own window
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2021-10-18 00:32:51 <liskin> Hm, I just realized that I don't need to refactor all of ewmh, I can just use ExtensibleConf to make window activation and workspace sort/rename configurable while keeping the existing interface intact!
2021-10-18 00:33:19 <liskin> Good, that sounds like a plan to fix #396 tomorrow.
2021-10-18 00:34:21 <liskin> (So the refactor can then be finished post release and won't be rushed.)
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2021-10-18 08:36:13 <FOSSHuman[m]> Hey guys, I have another issue. Why does XMobar (very very occasionally) spawn duplicate bars in my setup?? I use dynamicBars to spawn bars if screens are disconnected/connected, it should not be spawning multiple processes of the same bar.. It does happen REALLY rarely though...
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2021-10-18 08:37:52 <liskin> Sounds like an issue I had as well, xmobar sometimes wouldn't exit after getting signaled.
2021-10-18 08:38:22 <FOSSHuman[m]> yeah
2021-10-18 08:39:05 <liskin> I solved it by replacing the signalling with a more robust implementation, but that uses the threaded runtime which we don't have by default in xmonad, so I didn't submit a PR.
2021-10-18 08:40:14 <liskin> I wonder why it doesn't exit, though. Could be a bug in GHC RTS?
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2021-10-18 16:46:47 <FOSS_HUMAN> Is this bridged with Matrix?
2021-10-18 16:46:57 <FOSS_HUMAN> Ah k
2021-10-18 16:47:26 <geekosaur> yeh, you were showing up as FOSSHuman[m] before
2021-10-18 16:47:38 <FOSSHuman[m]> yeah, on hexchat rn
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2021-10-18 17:17:34 <geekosaur> note to self: xmonad --recompile after cabal update or your next session startup may take a long time
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2021-10-18 19:13:26 <jakefromstatefar> Why's that?
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2021-10-18 19:17:03 <geekosaur> I have a cabal-based buildscript. Something fairly low in the hierarchy got updated and it spent 5+ minutes rebuilding *everyhting*
2021-10-18 19:17:29 <jakefromstatefar> Ah
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2021-10-18 19:18:39 <geekosaur> I was due for an update&rebuild anyway, but I generally expect myt sessions to start quickly, whoops
2021-10-18 19:24:17 <jakefromstatefar> My docks keep appearing atop my other windows... Trayer, and Xmobar are set to lower themselves. I have: `docksEventHook`, `xmonad $ docks`, `trayerAboveXmobarEventHook`, as well as avoid struts, but when I set a window to `RationalRect 0 0 1 1` (fullscreen), the bar is drawn atop it. I've been running fullscreen applications for a while with no issue, I'm confused as to why this problem cropped up now.
2021-10-18 19:25:23 <jakefromstatefar> I'm going to restart my session, and hope that fixes things for now. But, this' a really annoying and seemingly unfixable state-issue.

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