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2023-03-01 21:32:05 <HB[m]> Within eight weeks of treatment, 69% of the group showed a decrease in irritability, compared to 12% of the placebo group. Two-thirds of the children who had a positive response continued to show improvement six months later.
2023-03-01 21:32:23 <HB[m]> I started this a month or so ago. So I'm hopeful. It's been the most helpful so far.
2023-03-01 21:32:32 <HB[m]> Sorry for offtopic.
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2023-03-01 21:44:12 <geekosaur> mostly my irritability comes from when I'm riding the edge of a meltdown due to sensory overload or hypersensitivity, so they're treating that instead of the irritability directly. 7 horse pills every night 🙂
2023-03-01 21:44:29 <geekosaur> anjd it's still not enough 😞
2023-03-01 22:13:49 <liskin> Uh, is this some new stuff? Last time I checked everyone on the internet said there are no meds for autism
2023-03-01 22:16:51 <geekosaur> there are still no meds for autism as such, but there are amelioratives for some of the symptoms
2023-03-01 22:17:43 <geekosaur> no meds will make you more social, for example, but you can do something about irritability and for some of the causes of meltdowns
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2023-03-02 09:24:34 <Solid> All of the hotels in Rapperswil are already fully booked :/
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2023-03-02 13:13:02 <kora9> Hey! Which GUI apps do people commonly use with xmonad for various things?
2023-03-02 13:14:46 <kora9> i.e. file managers etc
2023-03-02 13:31:17 <vrs> spacefm is nice
2023-03-02 13:40:09 <kora9> Cool. Will check it out
2023-03-02 13:40:18 <kora9> Is there a lighter/better alternative to gtkfilechooser?
2023-03-02 13:42:51 <dminuoso_> Emacs serves *all* my needs.
2023-03-02 13:47:36 <dminuoso_> It's a very nice file manager indeed.
2023-03-02 13:52:35 <kora9> dminuoso_ can you replace gtkfilechooser with it?
2023-03-02 13:57:50 <geekosaur> can't you use dmenu as a file chooser?
2023-03-02 13:58:18 <geekosaur> (dmenu_run is an application chooser but you can run dmenu directly to choose from lists of anything)
2023-03-02 14:01:04 <kora9> geekosaur, yes, but how would it get called by the application that spawns gtkfilechooser?
2023-03-02 14:01:52 <dminuoso_> kora9: Sure. Emacs replaces all of gtk for me.
2023-03-02 14:02:13 <kora9> dminuoso_: Cool, how do you have it spawned for file choosing?
2023-03-02 14:02:22 <dminuoso_> I think you're not getting the joke here.
2023-03-02 14:02:33 <geekosaur> afaik that's not spawned, it's a library that you can
2023-03-02 14:02:39 <geekosaur> t replace
2023-03-02 14:03:11 <geekosaur> the application is for use by shell scripts
2023-03-02 14:03:37 <dminuoso_> I dont really end up in a situation where I need a file chooser at all.
2023-03-02 14:04:27 <kora9> geekosaur, ah. I found that it's possible to spawn KDE's file chooser instead of GTK's though, even if gtk apps. There's apparently some way to select a different file chooser, but I haven't found anyone that's replaced it with anything that isn't KDE's
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2023-03-02 14:04:48 <dminuoso_> But seriously, isnt file chooser something that a desktop environment handles?
2023-03-02 14:04:58 <dminuoso_> Or is there any X11 control for requesting a file dialog, geekosaur?
2023-03-02 14:05:11 <dminuoso_> (Or dbus, even?)
2023-03-02 14:05:28 <kora9> I have file choosers pop up fairly routinely, mostly via web browsers through web apps "select a file"-dialogs or Slack's attach a file thing
2023-03-02 14:05:30 <geekosaur> X11 isn't that high level. I could imagine something via dbus but afaik it's not used that way
2023-03-02 14:05:57 <kora9> geekosaur, dminuoso_ I found this: https://superuser.com/questions/944119/replace-gtk-file-dialog-with-alternative
2023-03-02 14:06:30 <kora9> I would love to trigger something like dmenu/emacs/ranger or whatever like that
2023-03-02 14:06:48 <dminuoso_> kora9: well yes, but those select-a-file-dialog from the web browser is web browser controlled.
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2023-03-02 14:06:54 <dminuoso_> at least on firefox.
2023-03-02 14:07:32 <dminuoso_> Since firefox is a GTK application, its programmed to use a GTK file choser whenever firefox wants to open a file
2023-03-02 14:07:34 <kora9> dminuoso_: Yeah it seems that gtk apps call a gtk function to spawn gtkfilechooser, but it can still be replaced (in GTK apps) with the KDE file chooser, so it's possible to replace it
2023-03-02 14:07:54 <dminuoso_> Sure
2023-03-02 14:08:01 <dminuoso_> But to me, this seems to be a GTK question if anything.
2023-03-02 14:08:02 <kora9> I just haven't found an example where someone replaces it with anything other than those two
2023-03-02 14:08:15 <dminuoso_> It seems almost entirely unrelated to xmonad.
2023-03-02 14:08:36 <dminuoso_> (Beyond a file choser probably needing a window)
2023-03-02 14:08:39 <kora9> I figure that there would be more people here who have done that, than there would be in say #gnome
2023-03-02 14:09:55 <kora9> Since the aim of it is to /not use gtk's file chooser/
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2023-03-02 18:55:06 <mazte[m]> <kora9> "Since the aim of it is to /not..." <- if you're into TUIs, you could always try joshuto, ranger, lf, or vimfm
2023-03-02 18:55:11 <mazte[m]> i use joshuto
2023-03-02 18:55:37 <mazte[m]> it's pretty cool and you can enable previews
2023-03-02 18:55:49 <mazte[m]> * enable previews (i havent done that yet)
2023-03-02 18:56:07 <geekosaur> I think they want to replace the file chooser dialog in GUIs, not a file manager?
2023-03-02 18:56:22 <mazte[m]> oh, gotcha
2023-03-02 18:56:22 <geekosaur> (gtk's file manager is nautilus, not gtkfilechooser)
2023-03-02 18:57:59 <geekosaur> s/gtk's/gnome's/
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