Logs: liberachat/#xmonad
| 2022-03-18 10:39:43 | <tomjaguarpaw> | It would be great to know how to make X forget about the external screen, without having to plug it in first! |
| 2022-03-18 10:40:06 | <tomjaguarpaw> | I'm not sure this is related to XMonad at all, ..., but if anyone knows how I should deal with it that would be very helpful |
| 2022-03-18 10:45:29 | <geekosaur> | the driver should be detecting that automatically and sending xmonad and other programs an RRChangeNotify event |
| 2022-03-18 10:55:43 | <tomjaguarpaw> | And xrandr doesn't even know about the change! Does that means it's a driver bug? |
| 2022-03-18 10:57:20 | <geekosaur> | yes |
| 2022-03-18 10:57:52 | <geekosaur> | only the driver has the direct access needed to recognize monitor connection/disconnection |
| 2022-03-18 10:58:11 | <geekosaur> | I would be curious to see if the bug is still there if you're not overlapping them, though |
| 2022-03-18 10:58:27 | <korner[m]> | that is X thing that it doesnt forget monitors after they have been unplugged, supposedly its feature so you need some automized way to check for it |
| 2022-03-18 10:58:34 | <geekosaur> | I know some (possibly many) drivers break if monitors aren't contiguous |
| 2022-03-18 10:58:44 | <tomjaguarpaw> | I'm not overlapping them |
| 2022-03-18 10:59:12 | <geekosaur> | isn'tr one portrait and one landscape but with the same origin? |
| 2022-03-18 10:59:23 | <tomjaguarpaw> | I generally only have one on the other enabled. If I have both enabled then I have the internal one below the external one. |
| 2022-03-18 10:59:37 | <geekosaur> | ah |
| 2022-03-18 10:59:47 | <tomjaguarpaw> | Not sure how X keeps track of these things, but I never display the same thing on separate screens. |
| 2022-03-18 11:00:10 | <tomjaguarpaw> | It's possible they "became" overlapped when I tried to switch to the internal monitor. |
| 2022-03-18 11:00:33 | <geekosaur> | korner[m], I don't understand your question. cursor capture is independent of the window manager, and is usually implemented via grabs so it overrides the window manager |
| 2022-03-18 11:01:01 | <tomjaguarpaw> | But it's hard to debug this because when I unplug the external and I want to activate the internal I have nothing on my screen! All I can do is Ctrl-R in the terminal and hope I hit my xrandr shell script! |
| 2022-03-18 11:01:11 | <geekosaur> | the screen info you pulled up the other day for me showed them as I described |
| 2022-03-18 11:01:42 | <tomjaguarpaw> | Yeah, probably an artefact of how I recovered from the situation. |
| 2022-03-18 11:02:11 | <geekosaur> | also you could consider binding a key to run your shell script (or multiple if you need torun it in different ways) so you don't have to guess |
| 2022-03-18 11:02:51 | <tomjaguarpaw> | Yes, I think that's a good idea |
| 2022-03-18 11:03:39 | <geekosaur> | back in the old days I used to have a keyy bound to kill xcompmgr when it went crazy, and likewise I couldn't see what was really on screen |
| 2022-03-18 11:06:53 | <korner[m]> | speaking of compositing, is there any way i can prevent screen tear without compositors? i am not particularly interested in them and just locking entire xorg to 60 frames would do |
| 2022-03-18 11:07:31 | <geekosaur> | some video drivers have options for it |
| 2022-03-18 11:07:46 | <korner[m]> | regarding that cursor capture question, can safely ignore |
| 2022-03-18 11:07:56 | <korner[m]> | i use only intel ones which is i915 i think? |
| 2022-03-18 11:19:45 | <geekosaur> | the intel one covers most intel chipsets |
| 2022-03-18 11:20:10 | <geekosaur> | if you turn on verbose boot you'll see it prints out 3-4lines about all the chipsets it covers |
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| 2022-03-18 11:53:16 | <korner[m]> | i have modern UHD chipset so i am 100% in the clear, i will see later when i get config together if it works with those xorg options |
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| 2022-03-18 12:19:51 | <Solid> | tomjaguarpaw: I didn't completely follow the whole conversation but to me it sounds like you want different monitor configurations ala autorandr instead of self-written shell scripts |
| 2022-03-18 12:20:02 | <Solid> | (well, I guess one would still need to bind `autorandr --change` to a key in case things don't get recognised) |
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| 2022-03-18 15:14:53 | <liskin> | Hm, the paste completely freezes chrome on Android, weird |
| 2022-03-18 15:16:49 | <liskin> | Stackage 19 with new xmonad is out btw :-) |
| 2022-03-18 15:19:30 | <Solid> | oh awesome |
| 2022-03-18 15:19:49 | <Solid> | oh shit 9.0.2 as well |
| 2022-03-18 15:28:32 | <geekosaur> | yay, maybe we'llfinally see some other distros update too |
| 2022-03-18 15:29:49 | <Solid> | we'll probably at at least see nix update now |
| 2022-03-18 15:30:22 | <Solid> | arch has been on ghc 9 for a while (even on 9.0.1, which was quite broken), so unlikely there :/ |
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