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2023-07-20 01:25:00 <absta[m]> geekosaur, why are the most Wayland compositors tightly coupled to window manager?
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2023-07-20 03:24:04 <liskin> yeah you wouldn't expect GNOME to bundle compositor+wm together because gnome-shell has been wildly unstable for years and leaks left and right
2023-07-20 03:24:17 <liskin> run it for a couple days and it slows down to a halt
2023-07-20 03:24:32 <liskin> surely that *needs* a way to be restarted without bringing the session down
2023-07-20 03:24:53 <liskin> but no if that happens you're probably using gnome wrong they'd say :-)
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2023-07-20 07:23:31 <geekosaur> actually they know about it and are working on ways to do the equivalent of our passing state to a new instance last I heard
2023-07-20 07:23:38 <geekosaur> rather than fixing the leaks
2023-07-20 07:25:14 <geekosaur> absta[m], I don't know. I think they overshot in the opposite direction from X11 because wayland encourages integrating a display client with a display server
2023-07-20 07:25:22 <geekosaur> but it is what it is
2023-07-20 07:27:15 <absta[m]> That explains it. Open source management seems hard, and this “hard” might be understatement
2023-07-20 07:33:23 <geekosaur> I'd just say software design is hard
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2023-07-20 14:30:52 <liskin> and so is life in general
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2023-07-20 19:06:47 <avesheher[m]> hiya
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2023-07-21 13:38:54 <gar[m]> Hi when I’m doing the resize that window gets floated . I don’t want it to happen .
2023-07-21 14:01:36 <geekosaur> what else were you expecting a tiling window manager to do?
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2023-07-21 19:30:07 <u8353v[m]> <geekosaur> "what I hope is that standardizat..." <- so any security hardening comes at the OS level?
2023-07-21 19:30:07 <u8353v[m]> i use a reputable vpn and have gufe firewall enabled.
2023-07-21 19:30:07 <u8353v[m]> is this enough?
2023-07-21 19:32:13 <geekosaur> no, you need more than that, since anyone who gets unprivileged access to your system can e.g. sniff passwords in X11
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2023-07-21 19:32:45 <geekosaur> there are more secure local IPC mechanisms, but X11 doesn't know how to use them
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2023-07-21 19:33:09 <geekosaur> in theory someone could update X11 to do so, I guess
2023-07-21 19:33:56 <geekosaur> but X11 itself expects only local POSIX permissions, and is still therefore weak from a security standpoint
2023-07-21 19:35:07 <geekosaur> I don't know how much of a Wayland-style security model could be backported without breaking applications
2023-07-21 19:36:39 <geekosaur> come to think of it, this is one reason why (crossing the streams) window management gets combined with compositing: having them separate requires greater IPC permissions between them, and if there's one way to get that them there will be others
2023-07-21 19:39:40 <geekosaur> (I should mention here that I expect there to be conflicts between security and usability, even with GNOME-like monoliths, as time goes by.)
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