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2022-06-06 22:37:48 <geekosaur> for a long time we didn't even have clearBoring iirc
2022-06-06 22:37:52 <geekosaur> bleh
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2022-06-07 07:49:27 <mesaoptimizer> hi, I was messing around with cabal on archlinux, and now `xmonad --recompile` doesn't work. Any help? https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/AM0M7GvV/
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2022-06-07 08:13:47 <mesaoptimizer> okay the answer was that I had to `rm -rf ~/.ghc`. Removing cabal and ghc and reinstalling them didn't do much
2022-06-07 08:14:41 <mesaoptimizer> I'm surprised that the error does not actually tell you what the problem is
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2022-06-07 10:32:28 <Yehoshua> a bit late, but do you have more then one ghc install?
2022-06-07 10:32:28 <Yehoshua> for example, via the distribution of you repo, and ghcup?
2022-06-07 10:32:28 <Yehoshua> because that's what it looks like.
2022-06-07 10:34:30 <Yehoshua> and the problem is linking against xmonad-contrib's .so file,
2022-06-07 10:34:30 <Yehoshua> which means in some way either something is corrupted, or your compile env does not have _anymore_ xmonad-contrib installed. (but some headers are still accessible)
2022-06-07 11:07:01 <Solid[m]> it's just Arch doing Arch things wrt dynamic linking
2022-06-07 12:00:40 <alternateved> Hello, I was wondering if this was something wrong with my setup, but are utf8 supported in titles of windows?
2022-06-07 12:01:43 <alternateved> I could have polish characters everywhere else, e.g. in workspaces or in xmobar plugins, but window titles are the only one where those characters are not displayed
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2022-06-07 12:12:36 <geekosaur> window titles should work fine, provided xmobar is built with utf8 and the font supports it
2022-06-07 12:13:04 <geekosaur> I use utf8 in my terminal window titles to indicate various things and they all display fine
2022-06-07 12:13:10 <geekosaur> but I don't use xmobar
2022-06-07 12:20:41 <alternateved> This is the weird part: xmobar is build with xft support and xmobar plugins seems to display those characters just fine, the only issue is with window titles
2022-06-07 12:22:53 <liskin> We've had some double encoding issues in the past
2022-06-07 12:24:17 <liskin> Those should mostly be solved in 0.17+ but there's some possibility your config still does weird stuff with pipes
2022-06-07 12:24:26 <geekosaur> mesaoptimizer, removing ~/.ghc removes the package registry but leaves the libraries behind. you need to also remove part of ~/.cabal
2022-06-07 12:24:49 <geekosaur> I'd copy out ~/.cabal/config, nuke ~/.cabal, then copy the config file back
2022-06-07 12:25:44 <liskin> alternateved: how's your Haskell job going btw? I remember chatting with you over Discord a year ago or so... You're not going to ZuriHac by any chance?
2022-06-07 12:26:11 <alternateved> Hmm. I would need to dig around that. For sure I use the latest version. And I do not use pipes - mostly latest api
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2022-06-07 12:27:48 <alternateved> liskin, ah you were right
2022-06-07 12:28:34 <alternateved> Those kind of jobs attract weird people
2022-06-07 12:29:03 <alternateved> I did not feel comfortable working there, but that job enabled me to meet some other people and find another job
2022-06-07 12:29:36 <liskin> :-D
2022-06-07 12:29:39 <alternateved> Currently I work for company that does real things and try to help their customers, and tech stack is mostly functional
2022-06-07 12:29:46 <liskin> Good for you then :-)
2022-06-07 12:29:47 <alternateved> Haskell, PureScript
2022-06-07 12:30:13 <alternateved> And the place is full of experienced developers, so I am in good hands.
2022-06-07 12:31:20 <alternateved> I am kinda overwhelmed in this year, so I did not plan to go to ZuriHac. Fun thing; colleague from my job was asking me that today; if I would want to take part in at least the online section
2022-06-07 12:33:13 <liskin> I attended online last year and was completely overwhelmed
2022-06-07 12:34:22 <alternateved> Why so?
2022-06-07 12:38:13 Solid is really excited for an actual in person event, online conferences are such a drag
2022-06-07 12:41:50 <alternateved> Ah, yeah. Makes sense
2022-06-07 12:42:00 <geekosaur> I don't do so well with the online stuff either. plus I miss the "hallway track"
2022-06-07 12:46:23 <alternateved> Currently, I am a part-time performer/dancer, pretty overwhelmed with that also, so I take what I can to find some quiet time
2022-06-07 12:48:01 <Solid> totally understandable, of course, and I've even heard of people who like online conferences!
2022-06-07 12:48:15 <Solid> but for me they're really demotivating
2022-06-07 12:49:39 <liskin> alternateved: the schedule was so packed I barely had time for lunch, not to mention any hacking at all
2022-06-07 12:49:58 <liskin> By the end of it I had a queue of YouTube recordings to catch up with
2022-06-07 12:50:20 <liskin> Haven't had a more stressful weekend... possibly ever
2022-06-07 12:53:19 <liskin> This time I'll probably try to notify attende a single presentation. If the weather's good I'll do some hiking on Friday afternoon, and then I also have Monday evening and most of Tuesday to unwind and relax.
2022-06-07 12:53:36 <liskin> s/notify attende/not attend/
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2022-06-07 12:56:41 <alternateved> Okay, that sounds like something I would want to postpone till at least next year
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2022-06-07 13:17:13 <liskin> :-)
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2022-06-07 13:43:56 <moonsheep> I'm looking to customize my status bar (I'd like to be able to manually draw stuff). I have used xmobar for a long time now and it has served me well. I have made a prop logger that sends some JSON data to the status bar.
2022-06-07 13:44:08 <moonsheep> How should I go about interpreting this data from xmobar?
2022-06-07 13:44:40 <moonsheep> I have been reading its source and it seems fairly complex (a lot of TVars are used to pipe data around threads) and I'm a bit lost
2022-06-07 13:44:57 <moonsheep> Is xmobar a good choice to do this in the first place, or should I roll my own status bar?
2022-06-07 13:45:08 <moonsheep> I also heard of dzen2, is it any good?
2022-06-07 13:45:39 <geekosaur[m]> Dzen2 is very minimal
2022-06-07 13:46:29 <geekosaur[m]> I don't know of any status bar that knows what to do with JSON
2022-06-07 13:46:40 <moonsheep> How do you mean "minimal"? Ideally I would like to be able to customize it "from the inside" (as in, interpreting the data xmonad sends me and doing stuff with it)
2022-06-07 13:47:17 <geekosaur[m]> All it does is display text
2022-06-07 13:47:22 <alternateved> Did you check taffybar?
2022-06-07 13:47:37 <moonsheep> geekosaur[m]: well I'm pretty sure xmobar can display a fair bit more than just text
2022-06-07 13:47:43 <moonsheep> alternateved: nope
2022-06-07 13:47:56 <moonsheep> Hmm, looks interesting
2022-06-07 13:49:28 <moonsheep> Btw, in case it isn't clear I don't intend the status bar to interpret the JSON directly. I'm merely using it to be able to send haskell records through xmonadPropLog
2022-06-07 13:49:45 <moonsheep> (which only works with strings)
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