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2023-03-31 18:06:39 <Ou42> @hoogle Num a => a -> a
2023-03-31 18:06:39 <lambdabot> Prelude negate :: Num a => a -> a
2023-03-31 18:06:39 <lambdabot> Prelude abs :: Num a => a -> a
2023-03-31 18:06:39 <lambdabot> Prelude signum :: Num a => a -> a
2023-03-31 18:06:42 <Ou42> 3!
2023-03-31 18:06:45 <Ou42> the answer is 3
2023-03-31 18:07:05 <Ou42> sorry, sleep deprivation
2023-03-31 18:07:37 <Ou42> OK, gonna wind down and dream of the awesomeness that will be afforded me w/ all this soon to have efficiency. once I go left to go right etc etc. ( just joshing. )
2023-03-31 18:09:21 <Ou42> BTW, what does [m] mean?
2023-03-31 18:09:54 <Ou42> it's a bridge to ... matrix?
2023-03-31 18:10:05 <geekosaur> yes
2023-03-31 18:10:30 <Ou42> can't belive I figured that out. I've only used it once a few years ago.
2023-03-31 18:10:37 <geekosaur> I'm on both for various reasons including that element for android works better than any android IRC client I've found
2023-03-31 18:10:58 <Ou42> nice.
2023-03-31 18:12:19 <Ou42> thanks again. Hopefully things will smooth out and I'll make less noob errors.
2023-03-31 18:12:29 <Ou42> until next time. Nanu Nanu.
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2023-04-01 10:33:01 <xmonadtrack> xmonad-contrib Tomas Janousek * v0.17.1-147-g2dcc3a92: X.H.EwmhDesktops: Add (un)fullscreen hooks (5 months ago, 1 file, 32+ 4-) https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad-contrib/commit/2dcc3a92e70c
2023-04-01 10:33:03 <xmonadtrack> xmonad-contrib Tomas Janousek * v0.17.1-148-gd86f9ade: Add X.A.ToggleFullFloat - state-remembering fullscreen hooks (7 days ago, 3 files, 126+ 0-) https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad-contrib/commit/d86f9ade22b7
2023-04-01 10:33:11 <xmonadtrack> xmonad-contrib Tomas Janousek * v0.17.1-149-g02bd9eb0: CHANGES: Document X.A.ToggleFullFloat and setEwmhFullscreenHooks (7 days ago, 1 file, 12+ 0-) https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad-contrib/commit/02bd9eb0c07e
2023-04-01 10:33:19 <xmonadtrack> xmonad-contrib Tomas Janousek {GitHub} * v0.17.1-150-g673de11c: Merge pull request #768 from liskin/fullscreen-hooks (58 seconds ago, 0 files, 0+ 0-) https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad-contrib/commit/673de11ca876
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2023-04-01 13:20:16 <xmonadtrack> New branch created: release-v0.17.2 (25 commits) https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad/tree/release-v0.17.2
2023-04-01 13:20:42 <Solid> probably cherry-picked an unnecessary number of commits, but at least the CI should build now
2023-04-01 13:20:44 <Solid> fingers crossed
2023-04-01 13:38:40 <Solid> mh, I guess today is not a good date for a release
2023-04-01 13:38:54 <Solid> better wait until tomorrow
2023-04-01 13:40:37 <xmonadtrack> xmonad Tony Zorman * v0.17.1-55-g970893f: cabal: Update tested GHC versions (3 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad/commit/970893f5565c
2023-04-01 13:56:05 <liskin> Because of the date?
2023-04-01 14:19:42 <Solid> yes
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2023-04-02 01:15:59 <catern> sorry to ask a slightly lazy question, but... how does xmonad know to float windows that have a floating _NET_WM_WINDOW_TYPE ? e.g. _NET_WM_WINDOW_TYPE_UTILITY; I can't see any code which deals with that
2023-04-02 01:20:42 <liskin> catern: it doesn't, there's a different heuristic: https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad/blob/b06d885e764cc57d78e94402d583cbf72741d583/src/XMonad/ManageHook.hs#L110
2023-04-02 01:21:17 <liskin> https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad/blob/ab99c17a68144013d4c109e80ec9e51b16a64d54/src/XMonad/Operations.hs#L93
2023-04-02 01:22:08 <catern> liskin: aha i seeeeee, thank you
2023-04-02 01:22:32 <catern> (how vexing, now I have to figure out how to achieve one of these conditions with emacs...)
2023-04-02 01:23:09 <liskin> catern: it's probably easier to add a managehook :-)
2023-04-02 01:23:30 <catern> I'm trying to fix something upstream :) https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=62164
2023-04-02 01:23:39 <liskin> oh
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2023-04-02 01:26:01 <liskin> https://tronche.com/gui/x/icccm/sec-4.html#WM_TRANSIENT_FOR possibly? not sure if that has the required semantics though
2023-04-02 01:27:04 <liskin> "_NET_WM_WINDOW_TYPE_UTILITY indicates a small persistent utility window, such as a palette or toolbox. It is distinct from type TOOLBAR because it does not correspond to a toolbar torn off from the main application. It's distinct from type DIALOG because it isn't a transient dialog, the user will probably keep it open while they're working. Windows of this type may set the WM_TRANSIENT_FOR hint
2023-04-02 01:27:06 <liskin> indicating the main application window." is what EWMH spec says
2023-04-02 01:27:26 <catern> oh hah I missed that, well, perfect then!
2023-04-02 01:27:54 <catern> liskin: great find, thank you!
2023-04-02 01:28:39 <liskin> always glad to be helpful :-)
2023-04-02 01:35:14 <catern> liskin: thank you very much, that was the last bit I needed, I now have a beautifully floating emacs frame :)
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