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2021-09-29 15:51:09 × cfricke quits (~cfricke@user/cfricke) (Quit: WeeChat 3.2.1)
2021-09-29 15:54:18 <Solid> elonsroadster[m] | Well I mean that's a different question isn't it? << Is it? The contrast to a simple stack setup, which needs absolutely no additional steps at all to facilitate this workflow, seems huge
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2021-09-29 16:33:30 <jakefromstatefar> Yes, but over long-term management? Stack and Cabal are so brittle!
2021-09-29 16:33:38 <jakefromstatefar> I've broken both too many times.
2021-09-29 16:33:59 <jakefromstatefar> Stack less so, but still.
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2021-09-29 16:37:06 <Solid> broken how? rolling over to a new stack resolver and having things break would seem like an upstream issue that we need to fix (but the CI also runs on the most recently released GHC, so I think we'd catch that before stackage updates)
2021-09-29 16:47:39 <jakefromstatefar> I've broken a package/broken my store multiple times.
2021-09-29 16:47:59 <jakefromstatefar> Then, because of how cabal and stack work, it took a lot of effort to hunt down everything to remove.
2021-09-29 16:48:17 <jakefromstatefar> Plus, uninstalling, at least afaik is a big pain.
2021-09-29 16:51:38 <Solid> that mostly sounds like cabal issues, of which I have absolutely no idea (uninstalling a stack package is quite literally deleting the directory and the symlink in ~/.local/bin for me)
2021-09-29 16:53:15 <geekosaur> there's a recent package that helps with cleaning uo cabal, but recent versions are much less likely to break like that
2021-09-29 16:56:09 <jakefromstatefar> How recent are we talking? Just 8 months ago was when the cabal catastrophe I dealt with occurred.
2021-09-29 16:56:56 <geekosaur> cabal 3, which I'm not sure was released in a stable version 8 months ago, cabal 2 was still the stable release
2021-09-29 16:57:08 <geekosaur> the cleanup util was released a few days ago
2021-09-29 16:58:24 <geekosaur> hm, sorry, the cleanup util doesn't clean the store, just dist-newstyle
2021-09-29 17:26:33 <elonsroadster[m]> <Solid> "elonsroadster | Well I mean that..." <- What additional steps does nix need again?
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2021-09-29 18:11:29 <elonsroadster[m]> <elonsroadster[m]> "What additional steps does nix..." <- A flake.nix (just the way that stack requires a stack.yaml and... Nothing else).
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2021-09-30 07:18:54 <Solid> Basically what is discussed in #332, no?
2021-09-30 07:19:20 <Solid> (and a flake.nix seems much more complicated than a two line stack.yaml in either case)
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2021-09-30 09:04:49 <sibi> Also nix flake is currently experimental and only available on unstable . Yeah, I know that everybody uses it etc. But I guess I'm more conservative.
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2021-09-30 16:43:57 <elonsroadster[m]> <Solid> "Basically what is discussed in #..." <- Thats not REQUIRED just for using xmonad though...
2021-09-30 16:45:29 <geekosaur> Solid, not if you don't need to modify the flake to use it
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