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2024-01-14 20:44:07 <guest912> New windows appearing at the place of currently focused window xmonad by default, can I change this behavior?
2024-01-14 20:44:19 <guest912> So that new windows are appearing *after* currently focused one
2024-01-14 20:45:04 <guest912> If not by an option maybe there’s some way to make a hack. Like a new window hook that would move the new window one step forward in the window stack?
2024-01-14 20:48:21 <guest912> It seems I found a potential solution here https://wiki.haskell.org/Xmonad/Frequently_asked_questions#Make_new_windows_appear_.27below.27_rather_than_.27above.27_the_current_window
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2024-01-14 20:55:51 <geekosaur> sounds like you want https://hackage.haskell.org/package/xmonad-contrib-0.17.1/docs/XMonad-Hooks-InsertPosition.html
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2024-01-15 00:38:37 <guest912> Yeah, “insertPosition Below Newer” does exactly what I wanted
2024-01-15 00:57:19 <xmonadtrack> New branch created: dependabot/github_actions/cachix/install-nix-action-25 (1 commit) https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad/tree/dependabot/github_actions/cachix/install-nix-action-25
2024-01-15 00:57:24 <xmonadtrack> New branch created: pull/487 (1 commit) https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad/pull/487
2024-01-15 01:07:25 <xmonadtrack> xmonad dependabot[bot] {Brandon S Allbery KF8NH} * v0.17.2-113-g765e059: build(deps): bump cachix/install-nix-action from 24 to 25 (14 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad/commit/765e05947060
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2024-01-15 15:44:52 <guest912> What XMonad.StackSet.delete actually does? Does it natively close the window or just removes it from internal XMonad handling?
2024-01-15 16:03:56 <[Leary]> guest912: You can tell from the type: it does not produce an IO or X action, only a (pure) StackSet modifying function. So it can't do any window-closing IO, it can only adjust xmonad's internal model.
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2024-01-15 16:07:36 <guest912> [Leary], I could also assume that XMonad internally would trigger a close for a window as long as it does not find it in the stack
2024-01-15 16:07:53 <guest912> So I would not say it’s that obvious.
2024-01-15 16:09:00 <guest912> If you just modify the stack and reorder the windows XMonad will reposition them, change their dimensions, etc. It’s a clear X11 side effect.
2024-01-15 16:09:52 <guest912> So XMonad observes the stack on commits side effects based on the state. Could be the same for windows disappearing from the stack.
2024-01-15 16:10:34 <guest912> I mean, the side effects DO happen on windows disappering from the stack. They are hiding from the screen.
2024-01-15 16:11:02 <guest912> The the only question is — are those windows actually closed (is this side-effect included) or not
2024-01-15 16:11:59 <geekosaur> no, it just means xmonad will forget the window exists
2024-01-15 16:13:39 <guest912> geekosaur, I applied “delete” in the ManageHook to a window and it disappeared from the screen. Maybe it just did not show up in the first place.
2024-01-15 16:14:02 <guest912> Probably if I do it later (instead of doing it in the ManageHook) it will stay on the screen.
2024-01-15 16:16:13 <geekosaur> did it disappear or was it ever mapped? manageHook tells xmonad if/how/where to map windows, so if you delete it it just doesn't map it at all
2024-01-15 16:21:15 <[Leary]> guest912: You probably want `doIgnore`, which maps the window itself. `windows` will hide any window you tell it to delete.
2024-01-15 16:21:54 <guest912> geekosaur, yeah, this is my assumption, it was just never mapped.
2024-01-15 16:23:21 <guest912> I noticed that Rofi window does not obey any XMonad rules in a way. So it’s somehow a special window.
2024-01-15 16:23:29 <guest912> Does it tell XMonad somehow to ignore it?
2024-01-15 16:24:05 <geekosaur> yes, it's a dock and sets strut properties
2024-01-15 16:24:30 <geekosaur> oh, no, it's override-redirect
2024-01-15 16:24:47 <geekosaur> there are various ways to override xmonad's normal handling
2024-01-15 16:25:45 <geekosaur> a fixed size window will be floated. xmonad ever even finds out about override-redirect windows; the window must manage itself. dock windows with struts manage themselves and tell xmonad where they are so they won't be overdrawn
2024-01-15 16:31:43 <xmonadtrack> New xmonad-contrib branch created: dependabot/github_actions/cachix/install-nix-action-25 (1 commit) https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad-contrib/tree/dependabot/github_actions/cachix/install-nix-action-25
2024-01-15 16:31:49 <xmonadtrack> New xmonad-contrib branch created: pull/862 (1 commit) https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad-contrib/pull/862
2024-01-15 16:41:50 <xmonadtrack> xmonad-contrib dependabot[bot] {Tomas Janousek} * v0.17.1-247-g2272691a: build(deps): bump cachix/install-nix-action from 24 to 25 (11 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad-contrib/commit/2272691ada6c
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