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2023-07-21 19:51:45 <billy93> hey folks, i'm trying my damnest to get playerctl to work with xmonad, i had it working before but had to reinstall
2023-07-21 19:52:00 <billy93> playerctl play-pause just lists "No players found" - any ideas?
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2023-07-21 20:00:00 <geekosaur> if you had to reinstall, make sure dbus is being started
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2023-07-21 20:01:02 <geekosaur> (use `dbus-launch` to start your X session, or configure your display manager to start dbus)
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2023-07-21 20:11:45 <billy93> geekosaur how would I do that? i just select xmonad in the login screen from the list of WMs
2023-07-21 20:15:57 <geekosaur[c]> That would depend on how your system is set up but there is probably a `/usr/share/x sessions/xmonad.desktop` file or similar and the `Exec=` line needs to run `dbus-launch xmonad`
2023-07-21 20:16:36 <geekosaur[c]> Uh, without a space, I'm on my phone
2023-07-21 20:25:04 <billy93> i guess i could also just have xmonad execute dbus-launch eh
2023-07-21 20:25:08 <billy93> maybe that would work too
2023-07-21 20:27:32 <geekosaur> not really, xmonad and things launched from it then won't know how to connect to dbus
2023-07-21 20:28:42 <geekosaur> so you use dbus-launch to run xmonad or use a ~/.xsession which runs `eval dbus-launch --exit-with-session --sh-syntax`
2023-07-21 20:29:13 <geekosaur> but then you need to figure out how to make your OS run .xsession instead of something from /usr/share/xsessions
2023-07-21 20:33:00 <billy93> er
2023-07-21 20:36:12 <geekosaur> yes, sadly this isn't trivial
2023-07-21 20:36:47 <geekosaur> and we don't provide OS integrations, just xmonad itself, so I don't know how to hook it into your OS with dbus support
2023-07-21 21:09:42 <billy93> what is xsession?
2023-07-21 21:10:32 <geekosaur> the old (pre-XDG) way of defining an X session was to put commands in ~/.xsession which are run when the X server starts
2023-07-21 21:12:07 <billy93> i wish there was a way to automatically launch certain applications on startup and assign them to various workspaces, with some window size tweaks
2023-07-21 21:15:46 <geekosaur> there used to be, you could use -g with old-style X11 apps. new ones don't support it and don't provide a way to do it directly
2023-07-21 21:16:31 <geekosaur> you can however use `spawn` in a `startupHook` and then match it in `manageHook` and use `doShift`
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2023-07-21 21:30:19 <geekosaur[c]> I… don't think they got the answers they wanted
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2023-07-22 04:12:35 <galactic_starfis> Apparently not, though your answer is the XMonad way to do it... and it totally kicks butt, so...
2023-07-22 04:12:40 <galactic_starfis> who knows what they're on/after
2023-07-22 04:12:42 <galactic_starfis> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
2023-07-22 04:44:04 <absta[m]> Hmm, I never once experienced dbus not starting
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2023-07-22 08:06:37 <geekosaur> some display managers autostart it, some distros autostart it with X
2023-07-22 08:06:47 <geekosaur> others you have to do it manually
2023-07-22 08:08:51 <geekosaur> and I think they were looking for a more Windows-like answer, but yeh, that's not what you get with xmonad
2023-07-22 08:09:45 <geekosaur> you could get it with something like the xmonad under MATE setup I have, but that gets you a Windows-like REGEDIT setup too :) (dconf-editor to configure xmonad as the wm)
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2023-07-22 09:59:43 <xmonadtrack> New branch created: pull/463 (2 commits) https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad/pull/463
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2023-07-22 13:05:22 <gar[m]> Is xmonad compatible with ewmh https://github.com/polybar/polybar/wiki/Module:-xworkspaces
2023-07-22 13:09:28 <geekosaur> configure XMonad.Hooks.EwmhDesktops in your config
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2023-07-22 18:54:21 <geekosaur> I… what was that doing here?
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2023-07-22 18:55:15 <geekosaur> oh, apparently kiwiirc was being "helpful" and remembered it from some other connection
2023-07-22 18:55:43 <geekosaur> (I was testing whether #haskell-cabal would forward to #hackage)
2023-07-22 18:56:15 <Solid> huh?
2023-07-22 18:56:24 <geekosaur> [22 18:47:31] * redirtestcabal (~redirtest@069-135-003-034.biz.spectrum.com) has joined
2023-07-22 18:57:04 <geekosaur> at first I thought somehow the forward-ban ended up pointing here instead of #hackage
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2023-07-22 19:18:59 <Solid> ah
2023-07-22 19:19:15 <Solid> at some point I just configured my IRC client to ignore all of that join/leave noise
2023-07-22 19:19:25 <Solid> Only downside is that I'm now oblivious to netsplits :)
2023-07-22 19:25:36 <geekosaur> we don't see many of those anyway
2023-07-22 19:25:54 <geekosaur> closest we get i when the matrix or irccloud bridges fall over
2023-07-22 19:25:58 <geekosaur> *is
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2023-07-22 22:50:07 <absta[m]> <geekosaur> "some display managers autostart..." <- Interesting, so far both lightdm and sddm seem to support it.
2023-07-22 22:50:55 <geekosaur> others might but you might have to edit a config file and restart them
2023-07-22 22:51:04 <geekosaur> some others might not
2023-07-22 22:51:49 <absta[m]> May I ask what other display managers are out there that can be used with xmonad?
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2023-07-22 22:54:03 <geekosaur> gdm (probably autostarts it), wdm, lxdm — just looking quickly at `apt-cache search 'display manager'`; there may be others

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