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| 2022-02-14 18:14:12 | <galactic_starfis> | <Solid> "mh, indeed" <- We could always just mark the old implementation as deprecated, and migrate people over a few version numbers. |
| 2022-02-14 18:14:36 | <galactic_starfis> | Given the release speed, I think 1 major vnum, or a few minor ones would do the trick. |
| 2022-02-14 18:15:02 | <galactic_starfis> | The only issue would be older posts not getting refreshed. |
| 2022-02-14 18:15:08 | <galactic_starfis> | (that I can see, anyway) |
| 2022-02-14 18:15:10 | <geekosaur> | but we get grumps over deprecating stuff even at the kinda glacial speed we move at |
| 2022-02-14 18:15:24 | <galactic_starfis> | hm |
| 2022-02-14 18:16:45 | <geekosaur> | people setup their configs and leave them for years and then get smacked with deprecations 10 years later and don't like it |
| 2022-02-14 18:30:49 | <Solid> | yes |
| 2022-02-14 18:31:14 | <Solid> | also, we have no idea how people respond to deprecations and removal of things because (seemingly) no one has tried 0.17.0 yet |
| 2022-02-14 18:31:37 | <Solid> | which introduces very visible deprecations (via xmessage) |
| 2022-02-14 18:35:38 | <liskin> | Solid: why do you think no one has tried 0.17.0? |
| 2022-02-14 18:36:31 | <liskin> | it's just linux distros that are behind; bsds updated and many people who build it from git have presumably updated too in recent months |
| 2022-02-14 19:13:59 | <Solid> | liskin: maybe I'm overestimating the number of people who are using xmonad through their system's package manager |
| 2022-02-14 19:14:07 | <Solid> | (or the number of people who use xmonad in general :) |
| 2022-02-14 19:14:20 | <Solid> | but my feeling is that they outnumber the "I install from source" crowd quite a bit |
| 2022-02-14 19:16:45 | <liskin> | maybe I'm just underestimating your interpretation of "no one" :-) |
| 2022-02-14 19:17:31 | <geekosaur> | Solid, I think it's smaller than you think, just because we've tended to go so long between releasesthat lots of people have had to switch to git to get functionality or bugfixes |
| 2022-02-14 19:17:56 | <geekosaur> | in practice we're kinda rolling release |
| 2022-02-14 19:18:23 | <liskin> | I think that some (possibly most) of my friends install via "cabal install --lib xmonad", which does give you 0.17.0 these days |
| 2022-02-14 19:18:57 | <liskin> | but stack(age) still doesn't :-/ |
| 2022-02-14 19:19:19 | <geekosaur> | stack'll get there eventually |
| 2022-02-14 19:19:42 | <Solid> | the people I know IRL who use xmonad (which is so cool, btw, and none of them were converted by me :>) are all still on 0.15/0.16 |
| 2022-02-14 19:19:55 | <geekosaur> | we'll have to wait out the bigger fish they're frying, like aeson 2 which they'veonly just gotten too (who knows when they'll get to text 2 :) |
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