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2022-04-12 21:33:26 × geekosaur quits (~geekosaur@xmonad/geekosaur) (Remote host closed the connection)
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2022-04-12 21:54:18 <anon_kun600[m]> geekosaur: but it worked before
2022-04-12 21:54:19 <anon_kun600[m]> it loaded
2022-04-12 21:54:45 <anon_kun600[m]> removing it anyways but confused
2022-04-12 21:57:48 <geekosaur> you had it before, I told you to remove it (6 days ago even, I just checked my log)
2022-04-12 21:59:50 <geekosaur> https://ircbrowse.tomsmeding.com/browse/lcxmonad?id=57904#trid57904
2022-04-12 22:00:33 <geekosaur> line numbers are different now
2022-04-12 22:00:51 <geekosaur> but it's still that stray `main =` at the bottom, with the real one at the top
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2022-04-12 22:01:56 <geekosaur> 313-317 this time
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2022-04-13 00:06:54 <abastro[m]> geekosaur: hmm I guess that might be used for building my own task bar
2022-04-13 00:07:01 <abastro[m]> Tho it is hard to make a task bar, right?
2022-04-13 00:08:12 <abastro[m]> It seems quite a task to learn reflex as well, hmm
2022-04-13 00:08:14 <geekosaur> not really. the things that distinguish a task bar from another window are (1) usually override_redirect (2) struts
2022-04-13 00:08:28 <geekosaur> yes, frp is a very different way to approach GUI programming
2022-04-13 00:08:39 <geekosaur> but it's designed with functional programming in mind
2022-04-13 00:10:26 <abastro[m]> I recall you saying that making task bar is quite bothersome
2022-04-13 00:11:42 <geekosaur> I don't think I said that. task bars are mostly simple windows. the simplest task bar is dzen, which is just a blank canvas with a strut
2022-04-13 00:11:51 <geekosaur> dzen2 I should say
2022-04-13 00:12:45 <geekosaur> hm, unless you literally mean task bar like the gnome, mate, etc. task bar widgets, but that's enumerating windows with XQueryTree
2022-04-13 00:13:20 <geekosaur> indicator applets / tray applets are a bit more work but there are libraries to help with that
2022-04-13 00:13:38 <geekosaur> hm, and libraries to help with task bar widgets (I'm thinking libwnck)
2022-04-13 00:14:17 <abastro[m]> I see, I wonder why there are not so many taskbars then.
2022-04-13 00:14:36 <geekosaur> most people just stick to xmobar
2022-04-13 00:14:56 <geekosaur> I mean, there are multiple bars available that work with xmonad, but mostpeople just don't care
2022-04-13 00:17:27 <geekosaur> I like my mate-panel, but then that's why I run xmonad under mate :)
2022-04-13 00:33:41 <abastro[m]> mate-panel?
2022-04-13 00:34:17 <abastro[m]> Oh it is shipped with another DE
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2022-04-13 00:38:38 <geekosaur> yes
2022-04-13 00:38:53 <geekosaur> I think the only one like that that can still be used standalone is lxpanel
2022-04-13 00:39:14 <geekosaur> used to be xfce4-panel could, but they changed that a few years ago
2022-04-13 00:55:58 <abastro[m]> How does mate-panel look?
2022-04-13 01:02:01 <geekosaur> https://imgur.com/FYagmZQ.png
2022-04-13 01:03:08 <geekosaur> I have a panel with a taskbar and swap monitor at the top, and another with menu button, xmonad-log-applet, and systray on the bottom
2022-04-13 01:03:34 <geekosaur> not very different from any other DE's panel
2022-04-13 01:39:09 <abastro[m]> <del>Holy tabs</del>
2022-04-13 01:39:38 <abastro[m]> It looks similar to gnome panel, yeah
2022-04-13 01:41:06 <geekosaur> actually it is gnome-panel: the mate devteam took over gnome 2 support and development after gnome 3 came out
2022-04-13 01:41:16 <geekosaur> so mate is basically gnome 2
2022-04-13 01:41:39 <abastro[m]> Ohh, I see
2022-04-13 01:41:48 <abastro[m]> It looks good! Though not the look I am looking for
2022-04-13 01:43:21 <abastro[m]> https://preview.redd.it/8jzwbsxtodk81.png?width=2560&format=png&auto=webp&s=45c103185fa536af717658cdc2371abde4a5bb8f
2022-04-13 01:43:57 <abastro[m]> Do you know of a way to attain this kind of look without taffybar?
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2022-04-13 06:58:24 <Solid[m]> why not just use taffybar if you like its looks?
2022-04-13 07:00:28 <abastro[m]> Well, I should have said
2022-04-13 07:00:46 <abastro[m]> I like the part of it I designed (CPU and Memory widget part(
2022-04-13 07:01:11 <abastro[m]> That and task bar background color
2022-04-13 07:04:17 <Solid> my point still stands
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2022-04-13 07:07:54 <abastro[m]> Uhm, which point?
2022-04-13 07:08:00 <abastro[m]> Oh are you slot-[m]?
2022-04-13 07:08:11 <Solid> yes
2022-04-13 07:08:27 <abastro[m]> I forgot to say why not taffybar, yea it is because it feels quite clunky to customize
2022-04-13 07:08:41 <Solid> but you only have to do that once ;)
2022-04-13 07:08:46 <abastro[m]> <del>That and the maintainer isn't super responsive</del>
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2022-04-13 09:08:58 <abastro[m]> Well there is this specific effect I want to implement
2022-04-13 09:09:12 <abastro[m]> That is, changing the color of the cpu dynamically
2022-04-13 09:10:02 <abastro[m]> But it seems clunky to set that up
2022-04-13 09:22:42 <yusz-01[m]> <abastro[m]> "That is, changing the color of..." <- can do that with XMobar easily
2022-04-13 09:22:51 <yusz-01[m]> no need to write Haskell
2022-04-13 09:23:53 <abastro[m]> Well, for CPU I need its color to dynamically change, and for Memory I need a bar visible beneath the overlay
2022-04-13 09:24:42 <yusz-01[m]> https://github.com/jaor/xmobar/blob/master/doc/plugins.org#cpu-and-memory-monitors
2022-04-13 09:24:49 <yusz-01[m]> Both support dynamic colour change and bars
2022-04-13 09:24:56 <yusz-01[m]> Both modules of XMobar
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2022-04-13 09:25:23 <yusz-01[m]> Use a Nerd Font though if you want bars
2022-04-13 09:29:32 <abastro[m]> No no, I don't mean the text bars
2022-04-13 09:30:01 <abastro[m]> That is lacking huge in flexibility, I don't think you could ever overlay an image over the text displaying the bar.
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