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2022-06-09 05:52:28 <rotaerk[m]> I'm assuming because certain programs aren't exactly compliant with ewmh
2022-06-09 05:53:42 <Solid> huh, curious
2022-06-09 05:54:46 <rotaerk[m]> I was playing Vampire Survivors recently, and that fullscreened fine. I also played Coromon, but the xmobar still displayed
2022-06-09 05:54:59 <rotaerk[m]> * still displayed, even after I told the game itself to go fullscreen
2022-06-09 05:55:08 <rotaerk[m]> * still displayed, even after I told the game itself to go fullscreen (rather than just maximizing the window)
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2022-06-09 11:44:25 <liskin> https://twitter.com/GabriellaG439/status/1534731027368685568 :-(
2022-06-09 11:44:32 <liskin> "This is what killed xmonad, for example, by requiring a GHC toolchain to reconfigure it"
2022-06-09 11:44:41 <liskin> (can't resist liking it… :/)
2022-06-09 11:45:13 <spaceseller> I upgrade to xmonad 0.17.0.9 compiled with stack, after I have xmonad-git from AUR arch repository.
2022-06-09 11:45:29 <liskin> although one might argue that what killed xmonad was distro maintainers of haskell tooling disappearing :-/
2022-06-09 11:45:35 <spaceseller> after that don't have xmobar
2022-06-09 11:45:42 <spaceseller> on start.
2022-06-09 11:47:47 <geekosaur> did you also reinstall xmobar? (not that that should be necessary, but it'd mean it changed its location)
2022-06-09 11:48:27 <spaceseller> @liskin, xmonad is dead?
2022-06-09 11:48:28 <lambdabot> Unknown command, try @list
2022-06-09 11:48:39 <spaceseller> liskin, , xmonad is dead?
2022-06-09 11:48:42 <geekosaur> someone claimed it is
2022-06-09 11:48:48 <geekosaur> on twitter
2022-06-09 11:49:02 <spaceseller> I saw, beacause of haskel?
2022-06-09 11:49:10 <spaceseller> Gabriela
2022-06-09 11:49:23 <Solid> liskin: isn't she the creator of dhal? obvious conflict of interest there :P
2022-06-09 11:49:50 <geekosaur> yes, we're obviously supposed to be based on node.js or some other crawling horror that's all the rage these days
2022-06-09 11:53:59 <lyiriyah[m]> Electron-based window manager... ugh
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2022-06-09 11:56:01 <lyiriyah[m]> I spoke too soon
2022-06-09 11:56:01 <lyiriyah[m]> https://github.com/wnayes/electron-wm
2022-06-09 12:11:36 <mc47> liskin: a config isn't json though, I don't think it's a fair comparison
2022-06-09 12:12:13 <mc47> I mean, yes, GHC _is_ a lot, but I'd say if you already have it setup then xmonad is easy to get running
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2022-06-09 12:14:05 <geekosaur> there's a ticket somewhere about exploring a simpler possibly dhall-based config mechanism for people who don't need the whole shebang
2022-06-09 12:39:12 <liskin> Solid: :-)
2022-06-09 12:40:31 <liskin> personally I'm in the "keep it haskell just someone please fix all the toolchain issues thank you" camp :-)
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2022-06-09 13:13:52 <Solid> the good thing about knowing only Haskell is that I don't know how bad things really are and so I'm just content with the current state :]
2022-06-09 13:25:49 <mc47> Hint: it can be worse. I still have PTSD from gradle and maven
2022-06-09 13:26:14 <mc47> but it can also probably be much better
2022-06-09 13:29:26 <liskin> people tend to say Rust's is better but I can't really confirm that after my first month of doing Rust professionally
2022-06-09 13:31:09 <liskin> I kinda expected caching and GC to work out of the box, but the former is out-of-the-box nonexistent (thus worse than both slack/cabal) and the latter kinda follows from the former, so …
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2022-06-09 15:27:02 <spaceseller> can't understand, I need to ctrl-shift-q to LightDM and login to get xmobar. Why I don't get it on the very first login?
2022-06-09 15:27:42 <geekosaur> I was going to ask you to try running it from a terminal, but you left too soon
2022-06-09 15:27:50 <geekosaur> can we see your config?
2022-06-09 15:28:11 <spaceseller> yes, I get it from terminal
2022-06-09 15:28:17 <geekosaur> (I'd suspect $PATH issues, but that doesn't make much sense)
2022-06-09 15:28:18 <spaceseller> just not on start up
2022-06-09 15:28:26 <spaceseller> yes!! maybe
2022-06-09 15:28:31 <spaceseller> the path
2022-06-09 15:28:52 <spaceseller> becasue xmonad is in /home/mario/.local/bin
2022-06-09 15:29:11 <spaceseller> I put the path in .xinintrc
2022-06-09 15:29:18 <spaceseller> and now is on the path
2022-06-09 15:29:38 <spaceseller> didin't change anything in xmonad.hs
2022-06-09 15:30:19 <spaceseller> main :: IO ()
2022-06-09 15:30:20 <spaceseller> main = xmonad
2022-06-09 15:30:20 <spaceseller> . ewmhFullscreen
2022-06-09 15:30:20 <spaceseller> . ewmh
2022-06-09 15:30:20 <spaceseller> . withEasySB (statusBarProp "xmobar" (pure def)) defToggleStrutsKey
2022-06-09 15:30:20 <spaceseller> $ defaults
2022-06-09 15:31:02 <geekosaur> see if it works with a full path to xmobar, perhaps
2022-06-09 15:31:52 <spaceseller> you mean here in xmonad.hs
2022-06-09 15:32:05 <geekosaur> yes
2022-06-09 15:32:26 <spaceseller> something with path with fresh xmonad is the isssue
2022-06-09 15:32:56 <geekosaur> or make sure $PATH is set properly in .xinitrc, since I think only recent Fedora will read your PATH from your startup files
2022-06-09 15:32:58 <spaceseller> ok, need to reboot because
2022-06-09 15:33:07 <geekosaur> I know Debian/Ubuntu/Mint don't
2022-06-09 15:33:13 <spaceseller> I'm on arch
2022-06-09 15:33:48 <spaceseller> aaa, so maybe to put path in .xinitrc
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2022-06-09 15:34:28 <spaceseller> see you after I reboot
2022-06-09 15:34:33 <spaceseller> and try it

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