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2021-11-12 18:40:11 → werneta joins (~werneta@70-142-214-115.lightspeed.irvnca.sbcglobal.net)
2021-11-12 18:41:15 <geekosaur> hm, yep, SimpleDecoration doesn't work. but it's not falling back to Full either.
2021-11-12 18:41:36 <geekosaur> "doesn't work" here meaning no decorations are shown
2021-11-12 18:42:06 <geekosaur> so it's not throwing an exception but it's not doing anything
2021-11-12 18:43:15 <geekosaur> nor do I see an error message in the session log
2021-11-12 18:44:10 <geekosaur> and we know Decoration isn't completely broken because Tabbed works
2021-11-12 18:48:47 <geekosaur> derp. wrong workspace for testing :þ
2021-11-12 18:49:02 <geekosaur> once I actually got to spare2, simpleDeco works
2021-11-12 18:49:19 <geekosaur> no buttons but I don't think simpleDeco is supposed to have any
2021-11-12 18:50:57 <geekosaur> Vermoot, when you try to use simpleDeco, does the layout behave like Full? (Make sure you apply it to a layout that doens't behave like Full, of course.)
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2021-11-12 19:15:50 <geekosaur> jumping a little ahead, what I suspect is (especially if you're still on 0.15/0.16) the font can't be loaded. so you would try setting the `font` element of `mySDConfig` to a font known to be present, and if you have xmonad-contrib built with USE_XFT then you probably need to specify something like "Monospace 10" instead of the default
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2021-11-12 19:29:24 <geekosaur> also, I did the docs patchup
2021-11-12 19:29:37 <geekosaur> silly 1-word change
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2021-11-12 20:20:14 <geekosaur> @tell Vermoot you almost certainly have a font problem that is causing the layout to throw an exception. try overriding the font setting in the decoration config to a font that you know exists
2021-11-12 20:20:15 <lambdabot> Consider it noted.
2021-11-12 20:21:13 <geekosaur> @tell Vermoot if you are on 0.16 xmonad-contrib with USE_XFT enabled, you will probably have to use a font spec like "Monospace 10" instead of the default XLFD-style font specification
2021-11-12 20:21:13 <lambdabot> Consider it noted.
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2021-11-12 20:45:11 <Josh[m]123> Hi everyone. Been using xmonad for about six months now but I still feel like a noob.
2021-11-12 20:45:39 <Josh[m]123> Is it possible to dynamically change the gaps between windows? As in: via a keybinding?
2021-11-12 20:46:59 <Josh[m]123> I'm using `XMonad.Layout.Spacing` and have the gaps hard-coded in my config. Would love to be able to increase and decrease them on-the-fly.
2021-11-12 20:50:09 <geekosaur> looks like, at least if you are running 0.17.0, there are messages you can send to alter the spacing
2021-11-12 20:51:57 <Josh[m]123> Ah sweet. Are there some docs you could link to?
2021-11-12 20:51:59 <geekosaur> bind a key to https://hackage.haskell.org/package/xmonad-contrib-0.17.0/docs/XMonad-Layout-Spacing.html#v:setScreenWindowSpacing
2021-11-12 20:52:16 <geekosaur> there's some other functions including increment/decrement
2021-11-12 20:53:03 <Josh[m]123> Awesome. Thanks! I'll just have to get hold of 0.17 first then.
2021-11-12 20:53:36 <geekosaur> well. I'm not sure they're in older versions, but you could check the docs for xmonad-contrib-0.16 to see if they are there as well
2021-11-12 20:54:16 <geekosaur> actually I just loaded those docs and they are, so you shouldn't have to upgrade
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2021-11-12 21:04:12 <geekosaur> @tell Vermoot sorry, it's fontName, not font
2021-11-12 21:04:12 <lambdabot> Consider it noted.
2021-11-12 21:05:32 <Josh[m]123> Cool. My Haskell knowledge is pretty limited so I don't immediately understand how I should be using this. Do you have some pointers what I should be looking up? Sending messages?
2021-11-12 21:06:03 <geekosaur> the function sends the message for you, so you just bind a key to it
2021-11-12 21:06:24 <geekosaur> how you bind the key will depend on your config
2021-11-12 21:06:29 <geekosaur> @where paste
2021-11-12 21:06:29 <lambdabot> Help us help you: please paste full code, input and/or output at e.g. https://paste.tomsmeding.com
2021-11-12 21:06:47 <Josh[m]123> Something like this? `sendMessage $ setScreenWindowSpacing 42`
2021-11-12 21:06:58 <Josh[m]123> Oh, I see
2021-11-12 21:07:16 <Josh[m]123> I'll give it a go
2021-11-12 21:07:51 <geekosaur> actually setScreenWindowSpacing sends two messages, one for the whole screen and one for windows
2021-11-12 21:10:10 <Josh[m]123> OMGITWORKS. I ended up doing something like this: `("M-S-a", incScreenWindowSpacing 5)` (with EZConfig)
2021-11-12 21:10:16 <Josh[m]123> This is great
2021-11-12 21:10:18 <Josh[m]123> Thanks again
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2021-11-13 08:09:23 <Solid> liskin: I'm a bit OOTL, what's the current state of "let's try to affiliate with the HF"?
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2021-11-13 09:17:48 <mc47[m]> Solid: we'd need to make our governance structure clear, and not only have guidelines for the community but a way to enforce them
2021-11-13 09:18:06 <mc47[m]> I wanted to try to come up with something but life got in the way
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2021-11-13 09:25:02 <liskin> We don't necessarily need to have all of that, but we should at least have some docs about what happens if (some of) the current maintenainers die, how important decisions are (to be) made, and how we all want to conduct ourselves. It doesn't need to be perfect and there doesn't need to be a real CoC enforcement committee.
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2021-11-13 09:25:58 <liskin> I'm quite sure anyone who likes writing and doesn't like perfection can put all that into place in a matter of hours but I'm neither. :-)
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