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2021-09-10 14:44:25 <L29Ah> maybe it was some window with some annoying property, idk
2021-09-10 14:48:50 <liskin> hm, I learned something today: Isopropyl alcohol, via its metabolites, is somewhat more toxic than ethanol, but considerably less toxic than ethylene glycol or methanol. Death from ingestion or absorbtion of even relatively large quantities is rare. :-)
2021-09-10 14:49:13 <L29Ah> it's less toxic
2021-09-10 14:49:17 <liskin> I actually thought it's much more dangerous than booze
2021-09-10 14:49:25 <liskin> dunno why
2021-09-10 14:49:30 <L29Ah> ethanol metabolises into a carcinogen, IPA metabolises into food
2021-09-10 14:51:46 <liskin> oh
2021-09-10 14:51:58 <liskin> so where do I get IPA-based beer
2021-09-10 14:52:17 <liskin> iso-propyl-alcohol india-pale-ale
2021-09-10 14:52:20 <liskin> that's perfect!
2021-09-10 14:55:13 <geekosaur> it's less toxic but it makes your stomach fairly upset
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2021-09-10 16:15:10 <L29Ah> ok downgraded way before the recent changes and it segfaults
2021-09-10 16:15:16 <L29Ah> #0 0x0000000000d99869 in xmonadzm0zi16zi99999zm1NVWfzz55W6QFvQzzDgdWm3D_XMonadziCore_zdfLayoutClassLayoutWord64zuzdchandleMessage_info ()
2021-09-10 16:15:19 <L29Ah> that's where
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2021-09-10 16:15:29 <L29Ah> trying to trim down my config to a minimal repro
2021-09-10 16:15:52 <L29Ah> apparently the crash is depend on tkabber windows
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2021-09-10 16:16:32 <L29Ah> meanwhile i found a regression in xmonad-core that breaks tabbed from xmonad-contrib, will bisect later
2021-09-10 16:39:14 <L29Ah> ok reported all my findings in github
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2021-09-10 16:55:16 <mc47> liskin I completely forgot about the conference
2021-09-10 16:58:35 <liskin> mc47: were you celebrating the finishing of your thesis yesterday? :-)
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2021-09-10 17:03:34 <mc47[m]> Jumped on a bus and I'm staying at a friend's house :D been too long since I traveled to a new place
2021-09-10 17:08:02 <L29Ah> 17:55:14]<geekosaur> it's less toxic but it makes your stomach fairly upset
2021-09-10 17:08:02 <L29Ah> didn't notice that at 310mL 10% IPA
2021-09-10 17:10:40 <geekosaur> isopropyl?
2021-09-10 17:10:59 <geekosaur> I'd be surprised if someone brewed an IPA with that
2021-09-10 17:16:36 <L29Ah> yes, isopropyl alcohol, spectroscopic-grade
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2021-09-11 03:00:54 <rhit> Is there a good way to send xmonad messages from another program? E.g. to trigger hiding a window in a script
2021-09-11 03:18:38 <fizzie> There's XMonad.Hooks.ServerMode in -contrib, that can do some things along those lines.
2021-09-11 03:19:05 <fizzie> And wmctrl + EwmhDesktops can also do a few.
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2021-09-11 03:21:37 <fizzie> I do some "control XMonad from ELisp with x-send-client-message" things, that's the mechanism underlying ServerMode too.
2021-09-11 03:23:07 <rhit> Oh, that sounds promising. Gonna take a look.
2021-09-11 03:26:15 <fizzie> I don't remember if ServerMode really does commands with arguments, or if it's just that you can predefine a fixed finite set of commands to invoke. Client message events can carry a little data (20 bytes) though.
2021-09-11 03:35:24 <rhit> Just took a quick look through it. Not sure if you can send args either, but it looks like it'll work for me in any case.
2021-09-11 03:37:21 <rhit> Looking forward to trying this out when I'm a bit more awake tomorrow. Thanks!
2021-09-11 03:45:12 <fizzie> Np. Yeah, you could definitely do a "hide the currently focused window" external command (or whatever) with it. But something like "hide window with ID X" might take a bit of extra.
2021-09-11 03:47:47 <rhit> Yeah, but as long as you can get that initial trigger, you could do something cheesy like writing args to a file and reading them out if you really needed to.
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2021-09-11 08:41:03 <liskin> so, um, is this active refusal to document stuff a nix thing or an Ivan thing? :-/
2021-09-11 08:41:14 <liskin> (https://github.com/alternateved/nixos-config/issues/1#issuecomment-917321315 and context)
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2021-09-11 08:52:06 <Solid> I've certainly never seen anything nix related (except for the manual and the nix pills, but even that's very spotty) to be documented particularly well (most of the time, not at all)
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