Logs: liberachat/#xmonad
| 2023-03-08 15:32:37 | <gauthier> | only it's the other way around, I run xfce4-power-manager, but it does not seem to launch notifyd. But I'm still on Ubuntu 20.04, so maybe that will start happening when I upgrade to 22.04 (might as well wait for 2024 now) and apt upgrades xfce4-power-manager |
| 2023-03-08 15:32:58 | <gauthier> | I'll keep that in mind if xfce4 tries to take over in the future. Good info. |
| 2023-03-08 15:33:30 | <gauthier> | quick effective answer to my problem, thanks again! |
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| 2023-03-08 15:38:14 | <fizzie> | Last I looked at Chrome, it had some (minimal) requirements for the notification daemon, and as long as it met those (dunst certainly would) it would use the system one by default. |
| 2023-03-08 15:38:29 | <geekosaur> | yep |
| 2023-03-08 15:38:56 | <geekosaur> | we're trying to figure out why at some point a different notification daemon wasn't running (I just suggested dunst) |
| 2023-03-08 15:39:44 | <gauthier> | can't trayer to that? |
| 2023-03-08 15:40:01 | <gauthier> | or maybe I had another power manager that did that. |
| 2023-03-08 15:40:17 | <geekosaur> | maybe, I don't run trayer. but I thought that was the notification area, not notification windows |
| 2023-03-08 15:40:22 | <gauthier> | oh, I used to have gnome-power-manager |
| 2023-03-08 15:40:35 | <geekosaur> | (which are confusingly named) |
| 2023-03-08 15:41:06 | <gauthier> | it is the popup notifications, I don't think it would be relevant for trayer to touch these, but you never know. |
| 2023-03-08 15:42:17 | <gauthier> | or maybe xmobar... but most likely some locally install package, which I don't remember. Maybe I had some notifyd on the computer that created that memory in my brain. |
| 2023-03-08 15:42:54 | <gauthier> | Anyway, it's not very important how it worked years ago, I'm happy to have them back now! And happy to understand why Chrome still had them |
| 2023-03-08 15:44:40 | <geekosaur> | for a long time chrome didn't even try to use a notification daemon, it used its own always. that was annoying when chrome and the native notification daemon displayed something at the same time |
| 2023-03-08 15:45:38 | <geekosaur> | (which, because I have a calendar applet in chrome and a calendar program in MATE, happens regularly for me) |
| 2023-03-08 16:09:12 | <gauthier> | the thing that annoys me the most with the Chrome notifications is that I cannot make them silent. I want to see them, but I don't want them to go DING in the open office. I have my system notifications silent for that reason, but that did not apply, for a reason that I only now understand. |
| 2023-03-08 16:09:33 | <gauthier> | The fact that chrome did not let me set the sound is... astonishing. |
| 2023-03-08 16:16:29 | <geekosaur> | there may be some hidden setting |
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| 2023-03-08 18:23:51 | <kora9> | geekosaur: (that is, running individual xfce programs is no longer supported and may launch the full DE) <-- I didn't know that! I used to use xfce4 a lot, many moons ago |
| 2023-03-08 18:24:30 | <geekosaur> | yeh, it changed a number of years back. they used to support picking and choosing stuff instead of running the full DE |
| 2023-03-08 18:24:43 | <geekosaur> | I think only LXDE/LXQt supports that now |
| 2023-03-08 18:25:30 | <geekosaur> | it's just getting harder and harder to give users a "desktop environment" without having everything tightly tied together |
| 2023-03-08 18:26:05 | <liskin> | Hm, are those dings actually related to the notification itself? I thought it's always the website playing a sound at the same time it sends a notification |
| 2023-03-08 18:26:50 | <liskin> | I've had to disable sounds in every single website that notifies. Which isn't many in my case, but still m |
| 2023-03-08 18:26:54 | <geekosaur> | notifications that go through the notification manager don't separately ding |
| 2023-03-08 18:27:02 | <liskin> | s/ m/./ |
| 2023-03-08 18:27:25 | <geekosaur> | (mate's notification manager doesn't have sound, at least in the version I'm running) |
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| 2023-03-08 19:16:11 | <kora9> | liskin: Do you have a script for the rofi emoji input you can share? :) |
| 2023-03-08 19:22:59 | <liskin> | kora9: https://github.com/liskin/emoji-rofi-menu |
| 2023-03-08 19:23:51 | <liskin> | Hm, used to be a fork, but looks like the original author left GitHub |
| 2023-03-08 19:29:03 | <kora9> | liskin: Thanks :) |
| 2023-03-08 19:29:22 | <kora9> | I hadn't considered using rofi for that, but that's a cool use case! |
| 2023-03-08 20:02:45 | <liskin> | Do take a look at the rofi-dmenu-frece bit as well |
| 2023-03-08 20:02:55 | <liskin> | Gives you frecency sort |
| 2023-03-08 20:04:16 | <liskin> | It's a pile of hacks though, my all dotfiles are. |
| 2023-03-08 20:04:32 | <geekosaur> | you should see mine 🙂 |
| 2023-03-08 20:05:07 | <liskin> | I seriously doubt you'd have more bash in there than I have |
| 2023-03-08 20:05:23 | <liskin> | But let's not turn this into a dick measuring contest :-D |
| 2023-03-08 20:05:25 | <geekosaur> | (https://github.com/geekosaur/dotty) |
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| 2023-03-09 06:56:16 | <kora9> | geekosaur: I did as you suggested and tried using vanilla xmonad dual monitor switching for a while, I actually quite like it now that I know to expect the workspace swaps! While independent workspaces are quite intuitive, it can get messy when you move from single screen to dual monitor a lot (such as with a laptop). xmonad's method handles that much better |
| 2023-03-09 06:59:58 | <kora9> | geekosaur: "it's just getting harder and harder to give users a "desktop environment" without having everything tightly tied together" <- While I understand the need for that, I'm worried for the future since it seems wayland focuses so heavily on being for DE's, with so much of what made Xorg flexible slashed. It seems like it's going to be harder and harder to give users the option of having entirely customizable environments like with xmonad |
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| 2023-03-09 07:48:04 | <liskin> | Solid: yeah, there's been a lot of sponsors cancellations recently :-( |
| 2023-03-09 07:48:37 | <liskin> | but then we aren't exactly doing much to keep people engaged :-/ |
| 2023-03-09 07:49:00 | <liskin> | or making good use of the money |
| 2023-03-09 07:52:38 | <Solid> | liskin: It's definitely because of the PayPal thing |
| 2023-03-09 07:52:46 | <Solid> | I've seen other project going through the same stuff |
| 2023-03-09 07:56:18 | <liskin> | anyway, the estimate is still $600+/m |
| 2023-03-09 08:13:09 | <Solid> | I think we're making good use of the money; financing ZuriHac for example was a great thing last year (if only for mental health reasons :) |
| 2023-03-09 08:13:29 | <Solid> | If you want to see the numbers go down I can also send another invoice at some point :P |
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| 2023-03-09 09:24:39 | <mc47> | Solid: what's the PayPal thing? |
| 2023-03-09 09:36:08 | <Solid> | mc47: GitHub Sponsors stopped accepting PayPal as a payment option |
| 2023-03-09 09:36:32 | <Solid> | So if you support anyting via PayPal, your sponsorship will be cancelled when the next donation is "due" |
| 2023-03-09 09:42:27 | <mc47> | Oh |
| 2023-03-09 09:42:28 | <mc47> | that sucks |
| 2023-03-09 09:43:07 | <liskin> | Solid: I don't insist on seeing the numbers go down, but if someone wrote a blogpost about what we're doing and how that money enables that, people might feel better about it :-) |
| 2023-03-09 09:43:32 | <liskin> | no pressure whatsoever though |
| 2023-03-09 09:43:51 | <liskin> | I'm just writing a career development plan that my employer/boss asked for |
| 2023-03-09 09:44:19 | <liskin> | item number 1 in long term career goals is to have less than 4 day work week :-D |
| 2023-03-09 09:44:40 | <liskin> | but until that's achieved, I don't think I'll get to writing such blog posts :-/ |
| 2023-03-09 09:45:51 | <Solid> | :) |
| 2023-03-09 09:46:14 | <liskin> | speaking of mental health, I just returned from a 5-day holiday with the less-competitive/more-party folks of the London inline speed skating scene, and I feel like it was an instant burnout cure |
| 2023-03-09 09:46:57 | <liskin> | I think I might be going to ZuriHac after all, and I'll skate there from the airport! |
| 2023-03-09 09:47:08 | <Solid> | hah |
| 2023-03-09 09:47:09 | <Solid> | very nice |
| 2023-03-09 09:47:38 | <liskin> | dunno why I stopped doing this, it's so practical |
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