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2023-11-15 23:38:58 × tremon quits (~tremon@83.80.159.219) (Quit: getting boxed in)
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2023-11-16 00:20:26 <geekosaur> my sister still doesn't understand open source 😕
2023-11-16 00:21:15 <L29Ah> geekosaur: https://bitcheese.net/opensource-faq
2023-11-16 00:21:32 <geekosaur> no, she can't see why anyone would ever work for free
2023-11-16 00:21:42 <geekosaur> it's just not a concept for her
2023-11-16 00:22:07 <L29Ah> that's a lie, she speaks with you for free
2023-11-16 00:31:20 <geekosaur> as far as she's concerned that's family duty, but there's no duty involved here
2023-11-16 00:38:08 <liskin> there's loads of other things people do for free
2023-11-16 00:39:21 <liskin> not sure about the US but here in Europe there's loads of hobby groups run by volunteers
2023-11-16 00:39:44 <liskin> everything from knitting through walking/hiking to street skating
2023-11-16 00:39:54 <geekosaur> sure, that exists here too
2023-11-16 00:40:24 <geekosaur> I think she just doesn't connect that this is (effectively) my software that I choose to work on freely and release for free
2023-11-16 00:40:48 <geekosaur> (well, it's Spencer's software but he's gone and left me in charge)
2023-11-16 00:41:44 <geekosaur> She thinks it's natural that I should be charging for it and collecting income from it
2023-11-16 00:42:28 <liskin> well I suppose she does have a point that most people wouldn't choose to work full time on something that doesn't pay the bills unless those bills are already paid for
2023-11-16 00:44:32 <geekosaur> (in any case I'm working more on cabal than xmonad these days tbh)
2023-11-16 00:48:09 <liskin> :-)
2023-11-16 00:52:15 <geekosaur> (xmonad still comes first but cabal has a lot more activity…)
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2023-11-16 01:00:35 <geekosaur> I pointed her to that faq and mentioned that I've been in open source since 1984 (UNaXcess)
2023-11-16 01:01:14 <geekosaur> followed by imh which was fairly popular in the northeast US
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2023-11-16 02:32:07 <haskellbridge> <b​eastwick> Hello :), is it possible to set a variable for modMask when using EZConfig keybinds? Like, I don't want to hardcode mod4Mask in each entry.
2023-11-16 02:40:16 <geekosaur> only if you bind it at the top level. you might want `additionalKeysP` though, that can use "M-" regardless of actual modMask
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2023-11-16 08:25:05 <haskellbridge> <S​olid> yes the easiest way is to use `additionalKeysP`
2023-11-16 08:25:15 <haskellbridge> <S​olid> (which also features actually readable syntax! :))
2023-11-16 08:25:38 <Solid> L29Ah: as in, you noticed a regression? I don't think anyone touched the vim controls in a long time, so if that's the case please tell
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2023-11-16 15:09:13 <L29Ah> Solid: yes, when switching from 0.17.1 IIRC to git
2023-11-16 16:00:55 <xmonadtrack> New branch created: pull/479 (2 commits) https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad/pull/479
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2023-11-16 18:33:33 <thyriaen> what is this layout modifier again which flips everything
2023-11-16 18:33:53 <thyriaen> such that master and slave windows are swapped ?
2023-11-16 18:43:49 <vrs> Reflect?
2023-11-16 18:48:53 <thyriaen> yep, thanks
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2023-11-16 19:27:14 <haskellbridge> <y​oggurt> Hey I'm developing this pull request but I'm a bit lost on how to do the process to change xmonad-contrib and xmonad at the same time.
2023-11-16 19:27:14 <haskellbridge> <y​oggurt> I have the implementation for the new xmonad-contrib but it won't make sense to do so if it's not pointing to my fork. I thought I'd have to release xmonad first
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2023-11-16 20:18:05 <haskellbridge> <S​olid> yoggurt: You can open a contrib PR as well, just get ready for tests to fail and link to the xmonad PR that the contrib one depends on
2023-11-16 20:19:29 <haskellbridge> <S​olid> We can then think about whether it's worth bumping `xmonad`s version to have `xmonad-contrib` depend on that (but I think that you can have a contrib PR associate to #479 that's 100% backwards compatible)
2023-11-16 20:19:48 <haskellbridge> <S​olid> So perhaps we should go into that direction first, just deprecating things instead of removing them
2023-11-16 20:20:07 <haskellbridge> <y​oggurt> alright thanks for the guidance and patience
2023-11-16 20:20:27 <haskellbridge> <S​olid> Thank *you* for the contribution! :)
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2023-11-16 20:52:38 <haskellbridge> <y​oggurt> Hold on I just have a new question in my head. What do I do about copyright? The XMonad.Util.Ungrab" has a different author than "XMonad.Operations"
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2023-11-16 21:37:11 <liskin> Solid: did you get more stickers?
2023-11-16 21:37:24 <liskin> I still have some. Should probably tell people and distribute them
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