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2023-04-20 21:17:04 <geekosaur> hm, do we deal with a window requesting a resize via ConfigureRequest?
2023-04-20 21:17:33 <geekosaur> as distinct from either unmap/remap or the EWMH root window message?
2023-04-20 21:17:50 <geekosaur> (which I think we don't even advertise much less support)
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2023-04-20 22:05:40 <jabuxas> i discovered another interesting thing, with `xmonad ... . ewmh` some windows have their border flickering and spike cpu usage for xmonad, and another thing with xmobar consuming a lot of cpu.. well i'll send a video of the first one demostrating it.
2023-04-20 22:08:21 <jabuxas> https://imgur.com/a/JNTyey4
2023-04-20 22:08:39 <geekosaur> xmobar will depend on what version, several have bugs
2023-04-20 22:09:04 <jabuxas> xmobar is 0.46
2023-04-20 22:10:02 <geekosaur> I don't know if you got my earlier one but your game window was requesting a resize the ICCCM way (we neither advertise nor support EWMH move/resize) and that may be causing it to get tiled. I'll have to dig at how we handle ConfigureRequest
2023-04-20 22:10:25 <geekosaur> liskin? know anything about xmobar 0.46?
2023-04-20 22:10:47 <jabuxas> the issue with xmobar is that it spikes very fast to 100% cpu usage when changing windows fast, it's because of the UnsafeXMonadLog monitor, if I remove it the issue goes away, could it be because "Unsafe"?
2023-04-20 22:11:00 <geekosaur> (I know practically nothing about xmobar besides that some versions are buggy. I don't use it, and it's not really part of the xmonad project)
2023-04-20 22:11:32 <geekosaur> "Unsafe" means it'll accept commands as part of what xmonad sends it
2023-04-20 22:11:48 <geekosaur> if you removed it completley then it's not accepting input from xmonad at all
2023-04-20 22:12:06 <geekosaur> sounds like it may have infelicities in rendering
2023-04-20 22:12:47 <jabuxas> geekosaur: no I didn't see that, thank you. I read somewhere that xmonad is by default is icccm, that's why without ewmh it works?
2023-04-20 22:13:21 <geekosaur> it may be, since we wouldn't be advertising ewmh support so many programs would fall back to icccm
2023-04-20 22:17:33 <jabuxas> by changing windows i mean changing window focus. with 1 xmobar the cpu doesn't straight up peaks to 100%, but with 2 running at the same time it explodes fast
2023-04-20 22:18:23 <jabuxas> imgur really lowers the video quality by a lot, what a shame
2023-04-20 22:18:50 <jabuxas> can barely see the flickering
2023-04-20 22:19:07 <geekosaur> was gonna say, I didn't see much there
2023-04-20 22:19:16 <geekosaur> (sorry, making dinner)
2023-04-20 22:19:51 <jabuxas> no problem, i'll try to find another platform to upload it - any suggestions?
2023-04-20 22:22:39 <geekosaur> nope, I generally use imgur because that's what my screenshooter uses
2023-04-20 22:28:10 <jabuxas> https://youtu.be/hlJFDnnAQP4
2023-04-20 22:28:17 <jabuxas> youtube works for high res
2023-04-20 22:29:51 <geekosaur> hm. I think you may have an actual bug there
2023-04-20 22:30:09 <geekosaur> programs are allowed to set focus to other windows, such as modal dialogs (like that one)
2023-04-20 22:30:36 <geekosaur> I don't think we try to handle that, we'll just set focus back where we think it belongs
2023-04-20 22:30:43 <geekosaur> could you file that?
2023-04-20 22:32:35 <geekosaur> not that I'm quite sure what to do about it in focus follows mouse mode
2023-04-20 22:33:11 <jabuxas> i'll try, i'm just not sure on the right wording for it
2023-04-20 22:34:46 <geekosaur> (if anyone comes on this discussion later: WM_TRANSIENT_FOR)
2023-04-20 22:41:29 <jabuxas> on the minimal configuration file, is `main = xmonad $ ewmh def` syntax correct?
2023-04-20 22:49:29 <jabuxas> #452, anything I should edit geekosaur?
2023-04-20 22:51:42 <geekosaur> syntax is correct, yes
2023-04-20 22:52:01 <geekosaur> I'm reviewing how to identify modal dialogs via ICCCM
2023-04-20 22:52:59 <geekosaur> seems good enough
2023-04-20 22:54:43 <jabuxas> good :)
2023-04-20 23:17:53 <jabuxas> i uploaded some more videos demonstrating then the other 3 bugs, namely xmobar, league client being tiled, and #450
2023-04-20 23:29:04 <xmonadtrack> New xmonad-contrib branch created: pull/811 (1 commit) https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad-contrib/pull/811
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2023-04-21 05:38:44 <Solid[m]> mc47 liskin geekosaur [Leary] +1 for merging the core PR (after the issues with Repeatable et.al. are fixed), but I also think that we shouldn't merge the manageHook stuff, as breaking every user config that ever used windows (even in a 1.0 release) seems like a very bad idea
2023-04-21 05:39:01 <Solid[m]> and mc47 congratulations :)
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2023-04-21 09:10:21 <mc47> Thanks Solid!
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2023-04-21 09:13:13 <mc47> On an unrelated note, my friend who works at TNG reached out and told me if one of us could present a talk/workshop about xmonad there. The hackathon is probably during summer
2023-04-21 09:14:28 <mc47> Not sure I can attend since I'll probably be travelling during the time
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2023-04-21 10:35:52 <liskin> geekosaur: we do handle ConfigureRequest, and I have an upcoming PR to contrib to customize that handling
2023-04-21 10:36:19 <liskin> Unlikely to help jabuxas though
2023-04-21 10:36:25 <liskin> mc47: what's tng.
2023-04-21 10:37:02 <mc47> It's a company based in Munich, they organize the MuniHac hackathon
2023-04-21 10:40:40 <liskin> I see
2023-04-21 10:54:42 <mc47[m]> Solid @slot-:matrix.org came last year, I wanted to come but I literally couldn't get out of bed
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2023-04-21 11:18:16 <liskin> https://maintainermonth.github.com/schedule
2023-04-21 11:18:42 <liskin> and there's more: https://github.com/community/maintainers/discussions/315
2023-04-21 11:18:49 <liskin> (I don't think I have the capacity for any of this)
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2023-04-21 11:32:40 <horzion> i am trying to figure out to make zoom less annoying to handle. it always opens 2-3 totally black windows whenever switching rooms that disappear automatically. it also opens a black window when someone shares their screen and it opens a permanent white window for some notifications while everything else stays in one winodw (with exception of the chat, that sometimes opens in an own window)
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2023-04-21 13:15:59 <Solid[m]> mc47 if you can tell me the time I can tell you if I'm available
2023-04-21 13:16:18 <Solid[m]> summer is also conference season, but I hope I can squeeze it in somehow
2023-04-21 13:22:04 <mc47> I'll keep you updated :+1:
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