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2023-07-22 22:54:24 <geekosaur> display managers are completely divorced from sessions
2023-07-22 22:57:59 <geekosaur> well, no, since they can wrap the sessions in things like `dbus-launch` like we're talking about, but any display manager can start any session type (with some work; xdm/wdm won't run XDG sessions directly and the others need an XDG session wrapper to run ~/.xsession)
2023-07-22 23:05:12 <absta[m]> TIL about wdm. Maybe lxdm is lightweight enough to not start dbus session itself..
2023-07-22 23:07:11 <geekosaur> there used to be more but many have ceased to exist. KDE used to have its own kdm for example
2023-07-22 23:12:22 <geekosaur> I think MATE had mdm for a while too, then switched to lightdm
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2023-07-23 01:28:33 <absta[m]> Were LightDM and SDDM separate projects from MATE and KDE?
2023-07-23 01:29:04 <geekosaur> I don't know
2023-07-23 01:31:53 <geekosaur> wikipedia says they were both independent projects
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2023-07-23 03:38:42 <absta[m]> Woah
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2023-07-23 15:20:33 <Guest85> hey! a bit specific question, sorry for that: someone ever used xmonad with pijulius picom fork?
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2023-07-23 15:31:33 <Solid> No, but I don't imagine you'd have many problems either
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2023-07-23 15:56:46 <Guest19> yes, generally I don't. but workspace switch animation is not playing properly, only when I switch them fast. if I do it about 4 sec after, it plays open or unmap animation, and if I switch to empty workspace, that happens without any anim. again, im sorry for that kind of question, but it breaks my mind, I've tried a lot of ways to fix.
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2023-07-23 19:05:51 <geekosaur[c]> I don't think xmonad would be involved there except by having EwmhDesktops configured and telling pijulius to use EWMH. I have a `compton.conf` which does it for compton/ older picom but I don't know how to adapt it
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2023-07-23 19:08:27 <geekosaur[c]> https://github.com/geekosaur/xmonad.hs/blob/3a0adb542f8de902a33abbd10e2dad53d61d64da/compton.conf
2023-07-23 19:11:15 <Guest19> right, but other vm's "support" this feature properly (the ones I tried). thanks for the answer!
2023-07-23 19:12:22 <Guest19> all guided things (ewmh, managedocks) are involved. (but I miss some tho)
2023-07-23 19:12:31 <Guest19> might miss*
2023-07-23 19:22:06 <geekosaur> I can't make guarantees that the way we manage windows works with what it expects. We already have a conflict with how Gnome does it that breaks some screen sharing apps (we withdraw windows, some other WMs including Mutter draw them off-screen instead)
2023-07-23 19:25:57 <Guest19> I see. As I remember on BSD xmonad+tint2+this fork work perfectly. Unfortunately, configs are gone, but they not so different, because I tried a lot of them. I understand, the issuie is not hundred percent related to xmonad, so I'm seeking maybe someone had such experience. Sorry for possible offtop.
2023-07-23 19:26:52 <geekosaur> not worried about offtopic, just tossing out suggestions
2023-07-23 19:27:03 <geekosaur> this is the first I'm hearing of pijulius though :(
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2023-07-23 19:33:19 <geekosaur> (sorry, just noticed I needed to redo my emojis plugin — upgraded my distro the other day, things are still shaking down…)
2023-07-23 19:33:38 <Guest19> haha ^_-
2023-07-23 19:34:51 <geekosaur> 🙂
2023-07-23 19:34:57 <geekosaur> yes, that's better 😛
2023-07-23 19:35:52 <Guest19> that is :)
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