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2021-06-14 01:42:31 <shachaf> Man, it's a good thing I don't do Haskell these days, so I don't deal with all this nonsense.
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2021-06-14 01:45:45 <cdsmith> <DigitalKiwi "lowkey hilarious that they tell "> Makes more sense, perhaps, if you interpret "Why Stack?" more like... "Why, Stack, why?"
2021-06-14 01:46:25 <DigitalKiwi> https://github.com/commercialhaskell/stack/releases/tag/v0.0.0-beta wow i totally thought it was a lot older than this for some reason
2021-06-14 01:46:55 <monochrom> I do tell my students how to (uninstall GHC and cabal after they're done in my course).
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2021-06-14 01:47:38 <monochrom> s/'re done in/ finish/
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2021-06-14 01:47:51 <DigitalKiwi> (i've been a newb at haskell for longer than stack has been around...like...i remember cabal hell and being very mad it was not the package manager i wanted it to be ;p )
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2021-06-14 01:48:48 <DigitalKiwi> (i've had far more problems with stack than i ever did with cabal at its worst)
2021-06-14 01:50:10 <monochrom> Oh, and in my Unix course, the time I explain fclose is right after I explain fopen.
2021-06-14 01:51:24 <monochrom> I learned from someone the nice philosophy that when you learn how to launch a program you also should learn how to stop it.
2021-06-14 01:51:42 <DigitalKiwi> "can't stop here this is vim country"
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2021-06-14 01:52:47 <DigitalKiwi> i know something worse than not knowing how to close vim normally; not knowing how to close vim after you accidentally open an input stream
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2021-06-14 01:53:25 <monochrom> It was also in the DOS days so every program had a different hotkey for exit so it actually took learning or at least being told. No menu to remind you nicely. Hell unsearchable in most cases even.
2021-06-14 01:53:57 <DigitalKiwi> i can't close emacs if it doesn't have evil mode
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2021-06-14 02:03:39 <DigitalKiwi> https://mostlyabsurd.com/files/2021-06-14-020310_595x109_scrot.png is this new?!
2021-06-14 02:04:03 <DigitalKiwi> i've never seen it before; wanted for years
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2021-06-14 02:05:57 geekosaur wonders how far upstream it goes
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2021-06-14 02:09:30 <DigitalKiwi> https://mostlyabsurd.com/files/2021-06-14-020915_774x340_scrot.png not far
2021-06-14 02:10:37 <DigitalKiwi> https://github.com/Kiwi/Tiger-in-Haskell
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2021-06-14 02:15:30 <sm[m]> DigitalKiwi: tsk tsk you haven't read the fine manual!
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2021-06-14 02:16:28 <sm[m]> (stack's)
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2021-06-14 02:18:51 <DigitalKiwi> i haven't read it all no; but i haven't not read it either lol
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2021-06-14 02:21:41 <DigitalKiwi> (for every hour that i spend complaining about/asking for help i've probably spent 4 hours more trying to figure it out myself ;( )
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2021-06-14 02:22:49 <DigitalKiwi> *spends 3 days git bisecting nixpkgs, indicated commit is not possibly the source of the bug* "welp time to ask for help lolol"
2021-06-14 02:23:44 <DigitalKiwi> (plasma5 bug)
2021-06-14 02:26:09 <DigitalKiwi> still don't know how to fix it; a month later i realized (found on haskell wiki) a workaround :(
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2021-06-14 03:46:54 <siraben> DigitalKiwi: bisecting nixpkgs is always fun :)
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2021-06-14 03:52:36 <DigitalKiwi> it's very high on my list of 'amazing things that i am glad i can do but also make me want to cry' which is why i use it so often
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2021-06-14 03:55:41 <sm[m]> DigitalKiwi: ping me next time stack bugs you, maybe I can save you some time (for nix)
2021-06-14 03:55:43 <siraben> DigitalKiwi: bisect saved the day in https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/issues/107358
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