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| 2026-01-06 19:00:05 | <glguy> | SASL Plain mechanism is a different category from using TLS(previously called SSL). You can use each of those independently |
| 2026-01-06 19:01:07 | <glguy> | And perhaps related: the STARTTLS feature implemented by some clients means you'll automatically upgrade plaintext connections to TLS connections |
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| 2026-01-06 19:18:59 | <larsivi> | STARTTLS is a mechanism to allow for both non-TLS and TLS on the same port. Not ideal, and generally frowned upon these days, at least for SMTP. |
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| 2026-01-06 19:39:06 | <mauke> | so I guess data-default officially supports microhs now |
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| 2026-01-06 20:55:13 | <jreicher> | larsivi: I quite like STARTTLS, and always have. Why would it be frowned upon? |
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