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| 2021-06-29 15:46:32 | <arjun> | okay, how do you do front-end in haskell? |
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| 2021-06-29 15:46:47 | <arjun> | i really really REALLY don't want to touch javascript |
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| 2021-06-29 15:46:51 | <arjun> | : P |
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| 2021-06-29 15:50:19 | <dsal> | arjun: I think ghcjs is your only choice. There are a few related technologies, though. |
| 2021-06-29 15:51:02 | <arjun> | dsal: yea, few people recommended elm |
| 2021-06-29 15:51:16 | <dsal> | I've used elm a bit. There are some downsides, but it's very friendly. |
| 2021-06-29 15:51:19 | <arjun> | close enough i guess, but not quite |
| 2021-06-29 15:51:32 | <dsal> | The lack of typeclasses can be frustrating. |
| 2021-06-29 15:51:33 | <Rembane> | Purescript is also fun. Not as friendly as Elm but more Haskell-like. |
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| 2021-06-29 15:51:54 | <arjun> | Rembane: yea! |
| 2021-06-29 15:52:12 | <arjun> | but i was wondering if there's a way to do that in _just haskell_ |
| 2021-06-29 15:52:24 | <dsal> | ghcjs |
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| 2021-06-29 15:52:30 | <arjun> | but it looks its probably gonna be an uphill fight |
| 2021-06-29 15:53:12 | <monochrom> | Does yesod count? |
| 2021-06-29 15:53:43 | <geekosaur> | to do the frontend in actual haskell means getting the browser to run haskell somehow… glwt |
| 2021-06-29 15:54:04 | <geekosaur> | ghcjs is as close as you get with actual browsers |
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| 2021-06-29 15:55:36 | <tdammers> | Elm is not friendly, it's condescending. Change my mind. |
| 2021-06-29 15:55:39 | <monochrom> | XY problem: Finish the "java" calling convention of our FFI. Then write a Java applet. >:) |
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| 2021-06-29 15:56:15 | <arjun> | monochrom: might as well write a browser in haskell : P |
| 2021-06-29 15:56:22 | monochrom | came from the 20th century. Wrote a Java applet for visualizing the sieve of eratosthenes. |
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| 2021-06-29 15:57:45 | <monochrom> | Yes I sometimes also think "easy" and "condescending" are mixed up. |
| 2021-06-29 15:58:12 | <tdammers> | fwiw, people routinely mix up "easy" and "simple" |
| 2021-06-29 15:58:14 | <monochrom> | Windows is condescending. |
| 2021-06-29 15:58:42 | <arjun> | lol |
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| 2021-06-29 15:58:51 | <tdammers> | windows is extortionist software with a friendly-looking frosting on top |
| 2021-06-29 15:59:01 | <dsal> | Nice document you've got there... |
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| 2021-06-29 15:59:13 | <monochrom> | "an error has occurred, but you're too stupid to even copy an error code to a web forum, so we won't even tell you that" |
| 2021-06-29 15:59:49 | <arjun> | monochrom: to be fair. almost all non-technical people use windows |
| 2021-06-29 16:00:07 | <monochrom> | non-technical doesn't mean stupid |
| 2021-06-29 16:00:18 | <arjun> | monochrom: yes, it doesn't |
| 2021-06-29 16:00:29 | <arjun> | but most people would rather just "send it to IT" |
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| 2021-06-29 16:00:44 | <geekosaur> | most people just click through and get on with life, in my experience |
| 2021-06-29 16:01:09 | <arjun> | think from a OS-maker vs market-share perspective |
| 2021-06-29 16:01:15 | <geekosaur> | only "send it to IT" when that doesn't work |
| 2021-06-29 16:01:16 | <monochrom> | non-technical doesn't mean if an error is too hard to explain, the dev still can't print an error code and ask the user to report it to a tech person |
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| 2021-06-29 16:02:11 | <monochrom> | non-technical doesn't mean training users to just say "it doesn't work, no further comment" because the computer really doesn't give any information |
| 2021-06-29 16:02:13 | <dsal> | I've never been able to figure out why someone would choose windows. I'm probably an outlier, but family would ask me for advice, get a machine, have it do something terribly dumb, ask me for help, and I wouldn't be able to figure it out. *shrug* |
| 2021-06-29 16:02:25 | <arjun> | is windows-support packages a thing you can buy, i have no clue? |
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| 2021-06-29 16:03:02 | <arjun> | dsf: games? music production when you don't have / cant have a mac? |
| 2021-06-29 16:03:11 | <arjun> | video editing? |
| 2021-06-29 16:03:41 | <arjun> | many people are just fine with chrome and maybe word tbh |
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