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2021-08-25 18:07:46 <haskl> I'm trying to build my program. Not sure what the issue is here/not sure what libHSparsec is or what I need to install to get it working with ghc. I'm using ghcup and trying to install with cabal. https://paste.mozilla.org/jvFcCYCb
2021-08-25 18:08:42 <maerwald> haskl: distro?
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2021-08-25 18:09:03 <haskl> maerwald, Debian 11.
2021-08-25 18:09:21 <maerwald> haskl: which GHC is used?
2021-08-25 18:09:26 <maerwald> the path
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2021-08-25 18:12:46 <haskl> test
2021-08-25 18:13:16 <haskl> oh sorry! i was using ghcup it's using /home/tilde/.ghcup/bin/ghc
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2021-08-25 18:14:29 <maerwald> not sure if the store is busted
2021-08-25 18:14:35 <haskl> i can build in 8.10.5 though, but I get this issue when i try to run `cabal run cabal test`: https://paste.mozilla.org/fh6t5kEC
2021-08-25 18:15:20 <haskl> i remember being able to run doctests a while back but now that i' mtrying to run them i'm gettin gtrouble. i remember there was a weird problem with doctests in a specific version of ghc so that's why i was version hopping
2021-08-25 18:15:35 <maerwald> haskl: use cabal-docspec for doctests
2021-08-25 18:16:04 <maerwald> https://github.com/phadej/cabal-extras/tree/master/cabal-docspec
2021-08-25 18:16:17 <maerwald> here are static binaries https://downloads.haskell.org/~ghcup/unofficial-bindists/cabal-docspec/
2021-08-25 18:18:31 <haskl> hm i'll have to read about how to make use of this thanks
2021-08-25 18:19:23 <maerwald> https://github.com/phadej/cabal-extras/blob/master/cabal-docspec/MANUAL.md
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2021-08-25 18:19:46 <maerwald> 1. you build your project, 2. you run `cabal-docspec`
2021-08-25 18:19:53 <maerwald> you don't need a Main for it
2021-08-25 18:20:00 <maerwald> no test suite in .cabal
2021-08-25 18:20:23 <Kabouik> Thank you for all your help today maerwald. Sorry that the maintainer was a little bit hostile to your remarks (I remember him being very nice and patient so that's probably just a tone thing today)
2021-08-25 18:20:37 <haskl> thanks maerwald
2021-08-25 18:20:41 <maerwald> Kabouik: I don't think he was hostile :p
2021-08-25 18:20:46 <maerwald> just grumpy
2021-08-25 18:21:03 <maerwald> because he maintains 200 haskell packages alone
2021-08-25 18:21:04 <Kabouik> Yeah, better wording. A bit hostile to the changes you suggested though
2021-08-25 18:21:15 <Kabouik> But he *is* nice
2021-08-25 18:21:15 <maerwald> I don't understand why distros keep doing it
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2021-08-25 18:21:44 <maerwald> Yeah, I'm not sure if solus support is gonna move forward if they don't fix libtinfo
2021-08-25 18:22:06 <maerwald> it's really just a compat symlink
2021-08-25 18:22:08 <Kabouik> I have no understanding of what is being done to comment, I just grasped that he takes security seriously and don't want to give any attack exposure that could be avoided with some dedication from the maintainer
2021-08-25 18:22:21 <maerwald> that was all offtopic :p
2021-08-25 18:23:03 <Kabouik> Yeah I could see you two couldn't find a common ground, basically not agreeing on the issues or mechanisms themselves, so not easy to talk
2021-08-25 18:23:11 <maerwald> https://gitlab.haskell.org/ghc/ghc/-/issues/17878 would solve most of our problems
2021-08-25 18:23:16 `\pavonia^{} is now known as pavonia
2021-08-25 18:24:01 <Kabouik> So I was reading you two exchanging, and every tine someone was saying something, I was like "Oh that's true, one point for him"
2021-08-25 18:24:07 <Kabouik> And then same with the other. :>
2021-08-25 18:24:16 <Kabouik> Just too candid and believing everyone is right.
2021-08-25 18:24:34 <maerwald> I've spent too much time on distro packaging, so yeah
2021-08-25 18:24:46 <Rembane_> I love the "the rest should be piece of cake?"-part
2021-08-25 18:24:48 <maerwald> and seeing how they self-inflict pain doesn't make it better
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2021-08-25 18:25:00 <Kabouik> Just when he said it's not his experience that users have trouble compiling stuff with cabal due to the Solus choices, I almost just waved timidly in the discussion because I did have trouble.
2021-08-25 18:26:25 <maerwald> man, do static binary for pandoc and remove all the haskell-dev packages
2021-08-25 18:26:32 <maerwald> it's too much work for no real gain
2021-08-25 18:26:53 <maerwald> dynamic haskell libs... tzz
2021-08-25 18:27:13 <maerwald> our dynamic libraries aren't great
2021-08-25 18:27:37 <Kabouik> From what I understood, they consider there's a gain and it's worth it. I'm not able or skilled to judge though, and I know you disagree
2021-08-25 18:27:42 <maerwald> no one packages go libs either, so what's the point
2021-08-25 18:28:24 <maerwald> otherwise it will end up like arch linux, which just causes pain for their haskell users
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