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2021-07-11 20:30:46 <sim590> I have this simple example here: http://ix.io/3sHi (I have minimized as much as I could). I want to call function `someFunc2` which has three constraints on the monad. I manage to call `someFunc1` without issue. I can also call `someFunc3` since I removed the constraint on MonadState. But I can't call someFunc2. I don't know how. Any tips?
2021-07-11 20:32:14 <sim590> I'm getting these errors: http://ix.io/3sHk
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2021-07-11 20:33:11 <sim590> There's something I don't understand well about transformers stack. I don't know what I should do here.
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2021-07-11 20:42:11 <Guest93> `genstr size nthf = (unfoldrN size (\a -> Just ((nthf a), (a + 1))) 0)` is this correct? is there a more idiomatic way to achieve this?
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2021-07-11 20:55:38 <monochrom> sim590: Or perhaps it is simply $ being ineffective in saving parentheses, and if you wrote your own parentheses avoiding $, there would be no misunderstanding between you and the computer.
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2021-07-11 20:57:46 <sim590> I'm not sure I understand where's the error.
2021-07-11 21:02:22 <sim590> I would expect this to work: http://ix.io/3sHt, but I get this: http://ix.io/3sHu.
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2021-07-11 21:13:24 <hololeap> Guest93: you would know better than anyone if it's correct, because we don't know what you're trying to do. I assume it typechecks...
2021-07-11 21:14:34 <monochrom> Perhaps map nthf [0 .. n-1]
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2021-07-11 21:14:46 <hololeap> yeah that seems more idiiomatic
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2021-07-11 21:29:53 <hseg> am simulating sorted lists by a newtype on [] that checks (==) on the sorted version
2021-07-11 21:30:23 <hseg> but it appears that i can have x == y but HashSet.fromList x /= HashSet.fromList y this way
2021-07-11 21:31:23 <monochrom> That is fully expected of hash tables.
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2021-07-11 21:31:32 <Hecate> yes
2021-07-11 21:31:34 <hseg> oh?
2021-07-11 21:32:03 <hseg> ah, because I didn't make sure to make them hash equally too?
2021-07-11 21:32:07 <hseg> oops
2021-07-11 21:32:31 <hseg> should've written the Hashable instance explicitly then
2021-07-11 21:32:58 <monochrom> No, because hash table "order" is expected to be full of flukes from artifacts of, e.g., history of insert and remove.
2021-07-11 21:34:40 <hseg> ok, sure, but I expect HashSet's Eq instance hides those artifacts?
2021-07-11 21:35:21 <hseg> docs explicitly state that while you may have x == y, their toList may differ by a permutation
2021-07-11 21:35:22 <monochrom> Err nevermind, misread. I was thinking toList.
2021-07-11 21:35:35 <hseg> yeah. i did a different dumb
2021-07-11 21:36:02 <hseg> of mixing self-defined and derived instances without checking inter-instance contracts
2021-07-11 21:37:37 <hseg> and yes, that fixed it
2021-07-11 21:38:09 <monochrom> :)
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2021-07-11 21:38:47 <hseg> wish there was a way to reduce boilerplate on types ~ a / (a -> q)
2021-07-11 21:39:31 <hseg> basically, for every instance of a in negative position, map with the projection, then fall through to q's instance
2021-07-11 21:39:46 <dexterfoo> should the "stm-chans" package be used? is it still good?
2021-07-11 21:42:27 <c_wraith> it's a dependency of git-annex, so it's at least not causing problems for them
2021-07-11 21:43:38 <hseg> actually, guess you could do something like http://ix.io/3sHH and derive via Quotient s a for appropriate s
2021-07-11 21:44:07 <hseg> overengineered for my single use case, but a useful snippet
2021-07-11 21:47:48 <hseg> thanks!
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2021-07-11 22:16:50 <Atum_> Hey, I'm trying to understand an example code from LYAH, it says that I can drop the xs parameter on: "sum' xs = foldl (\acc x -> acc + x) 0 xs" to be "sum' = foldl (\acc x -> acc + x)"
2021-07-11 22:17:14 <geekosaur> there should be a 0 at the end of that
2021-07-11 22:17:15 <Atum_> how does the xs parameter gets to the foldl, when I call "sum' [1,2,3]"?
2021-07-11 22:17:33 <Atum_> oh, yea, it was a typo
2021-07-11 22:17:34 <geekosaur> the xs is on the right of both sides so you can factor it out
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2021-07-11 22:17:50 <geekosaur> haskell will still figure out it's needed
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2021-07-11 22:18:03 <Atum_> but wouldn't "sum' [1,2,3]" just ignore the parameter?
2021-07-11 22:18:07 <dibblego> I get this question a lot irl. I then defer to explaining that all functions in Haskell take exactly one argument, including foldl
2021-07-11 22:18:25 <Atum_> oh
2021-07-11 22:18:50 <Atum_> It would be something like this, in JS: "let a = () => arr => arr.reduce((acc, curr) => acc + curr, 0)"
2021-07-11 22:18:54 <dibblego> explaining that fact over IRC is a little more difficult
2021-07-11 22:19:02 <Atum_> so I would invoke it like a()([1, 2,3])
2021-07-11 22:19:18 Guest1016 parts (~hidden@47.202.102.10) ()
2021-07-11 22:19:19 <dibblego> here is the type of the only argument of foldl :: (b -> a -> a)
2021-07-11 22:19:30 <dibblego> here is its return type :: b -> [a] -> b

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