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2021-08-02 15:47:01 <lechner> sm: Hi, I may try to migrate the Debian Wiki from MoinMoin. Have you kept up, by ony chance, on the best work-around for the missing pandoc reader? Thanks! https://github.com/jgm/pandoc/issues/185
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2021-08-02 15:48:16 <merijn> FML
2021-08-02 15:48:31 <merijn> Apparently 8.0 doesn't yet support "-Wwarn=" >.>
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2021-08-02 15:55:09 <myShoggoth> I will be streaming HF Office Hours in a few minutes! https://www.twitch.tv/myshoggoth
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2021-08-02 16:07:05 <euouae> Hello is cabal using nix style module system now ?
2021-08-02 16:07:15 <euouae> my cabal is about a year old and I want to update
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2021-08-02 16:09:09 <davean> euouae: Uh, has for years?
2021-08-02 16:09:26 <davean> since 2016?
2021-08-02 16:09:33 <euouae> By default now, right ? My man pages say it’s experimental
2021-08-02 16:09:43 <euouae> I was reading my man pages to learn some cabal
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2021-08-02 16:10:17 <euouae> Is there a way to download docs for offline reading for cabal ?
2021-08-02 16:10:55 <davean> Think that was more like 2 years ago, not sure the exact date. What version are you on? And what docs do you want?
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2021-08-02 16:11:37 <davean> Yah, looks like nix stuff went default in Aug 2019
2021-08-02 16:12:03 <euouae> Right now my laptop is turned off
2021-08-02 16:12:22 <euouae> I want the latest cabal version and docs
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2021-08-02 16:13:15 <davean> https://www.haskell.org/cabal/download.html but you can generally just do "cabal install cabal-install"
2021-08-02 16:13:50 <sclv> for docs: https://readthedocs.org/projects/cabal/downloads/
2021-08-02 16:14:16 <sclv> i note there's no downloads for the 3.4 tag tho, not sure how those are created!
2021-08-02 16:14:55 <euouae> That’s okay thank you
2021-08-02 16:15:17 <euouae> Can I ask cabal with the dry run to tell me the total MB to be downloaded.
2021-08-02 16:15:19 <euouae> ?
2021-08-02 16:15:31 <sclv> no
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2021-08-02 16:15:53 <sclv> dry run is an offline mode -- to know how much it would need to download it would need to query sizes
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2021-08-02 16:17:02 <euouae> Oh ok, but can I query otherwise ?
2021-08-02 16:17:51 <sclv> there's no feature that tells you ahead of time how much it will download
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2021-08-02 16:18:05 <euouae> Hmm okay
2021-08-02 16:18:45 <euouae> For a year old installation what can I expect? One GB?
2021-08-02 16:19:15 <sclv> what do you mean, if you type `cabal install cabal-install`?
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2021-08-02 16:19:37 <sclv> cabal packages are just source, they're tiny
2021-08-02 16:19:47 <sclv> the cost will largely be in terms of what's generated by ghc in binary size
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2021-08-02 16:20:08 <sclv> i'd estimate far less than a gig, on the order of a few hundred megs, but its a guess
2021-08-02 16:20:25 <sclv> or you can just download the binary itself from the link davean gave, which is tiny, and involves no additional footprint
2021-08-02 16:20:25 <euouae> Nice thank you
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2021-08-02 16:22:14 <davean> euouae: Yah, you're talking single digit MiB on the high side
2021-08-02 16:22:26 <davean> euouae: I don't think anyone wrote that because no one cared to check :)
2021-08-02 16:22:33 <euouae> Hehe ooh okay
2021-08-02 16:22:57 <euouae> Yeah Internet can be expensive in the absence of competition
2021-08-02 16:23:39 <davean> Understood, Infact I've had that problem, so I actually did a thing to download all of hackage - everything you might install with cabal install - in 1.4GiB
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2021-08-02 16:23:58 <davean> Mine is more expensive in non-monitary cost - access can be limited
2021-08-02 16:24:13 <euouae> I see
2021-08-02 16:24:44 <euouae> Ok if all of hackage is that much then I think I’m good hehe
2021-08-02 16:25:30 <davean> Well I do a lot of compression, but I also include the ancient versions, so its not a bad estimate of how large what you'd touch of it without hte compression is
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2021-08-02 16:25:39 <davean> (If you did a LOT of Haskell)
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