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2021-08-22 18:52:30 <fresheyeball> glguy: I don't understand that
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2021-08-22 18:52:44 <fresheyeball> you mean get ToJSON from the underly Generic?
2021-08-22 18:52:58 <fresheyeball> and then use that instance in my hand written instance?
2021-08-22 18:53:06 <glguy> There's no reason to store a Proxy in the datatype, anyway
2021-08-22 18:53:29 <glguy> the whole datatype really is just the PageModel
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2021-08-22 18:53:33 <fresheyeball> I don't see how to get even Eq without it
2021-08-22 18:54:01 <glguy> Storing the proxy in the datatype, that first field with type (Proxy p), doesn't help implement Eq
2021-08-22 18:54:04 <fresheyeball> http://ix.io/3wGy
2021-08-22 18:54:09 <fresheyeball> if you want to see what I have in full
2021-08-22 18:54:23 <fresheyeball> I am using it with typeable to get Eq
2021-08-22 18:55:25 <timCF> Hello! I'm looking for a some soft of "standard" function `Int -> Rational -> Text` which takes amount of symbols to render aftrer dot as first argument. Ideally I want this function to work without convertions to Float/Double and corresponding rounding errors. I came up with this, but not sure it's optimal solution
2021-08-22 18:55:30 <timCF> https://github.com/tkachuk-labs/rentier/blob/8089b849d431b8eaa6aa793894c624d473bd4b04/src/Rentier/Rational.hs#L18-L31
2021-08-22 18:55:47 <fresheyeball> timCF: convert to Fixed first
2021-08-22 18:55:48 <glguy> fresheyeball, You can always just make a new "Proxy" value when you need it; storing it on the constructor doesn't do anything extra
2021-08-22 18:55:57 <fresheyeball> then just use Show
2021-08-22 18:56:46 <fresheyeball> glguy: I don't see how to do it
2021-08-22 18:56:59 <fresheyeball> how do I bring p into scope without to Proxy?
2021-08-22 18:57:11 <timCF> fresheyeball: thanks!
2021-08-22 18:57:47 <glguy> fresheyeball, one moment, your file was missing all the language extensions
2021-08-22 18:57:59 <fresheyeball> glguy: yeah it's in the cabal file
2021-08-22 18:58:09 <glguy> yeah, this is why that's not as good as putting them in the file
2021-08-22 18:58:23 <fresheyeball> glguy: I get really sick of adding them
2021-08-22 18:58:44 <glguy> fortunately making new files isn't the most common part of making things
2021-08-22 18:59:14 <fresheyeball> glguy: I understand the critique, but I am doing it this way and I am not changing it
2021-08-22 18:59:29 <glguy> that fine, it just means your file doesn't load. I'll stop
2021-08-22 19:00:57 <fresheyeball> glguy: I got it
2021-08-22 19:01:08 <fresheyeball> I can do (x :: PageModel p) and avoid the Proxy
2021-08-22 19:01:21 <shachaf> -fglasgow-exts for life
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2021-08-22 19:01:43 <shachaf> I heard they were adding something like glasgow-exts back to GHC?
2021-08-22 19:02:24 <fresheyeball> Oop nope
2021-08-22 19:02:28 <fresheyeball> I do need the Proxy
2021-08-22 19:02:33 <fresheyeball> otherwise I can't get instances into scope
2021-08-22 19:05:44 <glguy> no, pattern matching on the PageView constructor brings instances into scope, not the Proxy
2021-08-22 19:06:34 <janus> shachaf: is it GHC2021 that is like glasgow-exts?
2021-08-22 19:06:50 <glguy> If you ever need a proxy you can recover it like: toProxy :: f p -> Proxy p; toProxy _ = Proxy
2021-08-22 19:06:54 <shachaf> Oh, that sounds right.
2021-08-22 19:10:00 <janus> GHC2021+GADTs+OverloadedStrings+DerivingStrategies 4 lyfe :P
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2021-08-22 19:11:57 <janus> hmm what if they had done multiple levels og GHC2021? :P hahaha you could have GHC2021SevenVotes, GHC2021SixVotes :P then, if like me, you think ghc2021 is a bit too conserative, you'd have the option
2021-08-22 19:11:58 <shachaf> Glaswegian Algebraic Data Types isn't part of GHC2021?
2021-08-22 19:12:23 <janus> shachaf: they are not ;) the one i mentioned are at 7 votes, they'd need 8 votes to be included
2021-08-22 19:13:17 <janus> in effect, i guess it would be like a two-staged voting system
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2021-08-22 19:13:34 <janus> then, you could probe haskell and see which level of ghc2021 people would commonly choose
2021-08-22 19:13:44 <janus> i think GHC2021SevenVotes would be more popular than GHC2021EightVotes
2021-08-22 19:14:06 <janus> s/haskell/hackage/ (sorry)
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2021-08-22 19:22:30 <fresheyeball> ok so ToJSON was easy
2021-08-22 19:22:34 <fresheyeball> but FromJSON is hard
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2021-08-22 19:24:34 <c_wraith> I'd expect FromJSON to actually be impossible
2021-08-22 19:24:48 <fresheyeball> c_wraith: I did this before with singletons
2021-08-22 19:24:56 <fresheyeball> but I don't want to pull in singletons just for this
2021-08-22 19:25:06 <fresheyeball> basically I demote Page and encode that into the json
2021-08-22 19:25:18 <fresheyeball> then I decode Page, and need to convert it to a Proxy of itself
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2021-08-22 19:26:07 <janus> hmmm i wonder if it even makes sense to have a discussion around GHC2021SevenVotes or if is it just plain politically infeasible
2021-08-22 19:26:09 <c_wraith> your options are all various forms of "a table". The only question is whether you manage that table yourself or try to throw it into instances of some class to make the compiler do it
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2021-08-22 19:34:26 <fresheyeball> c_wraith: I got it!
2021-08-22 19:35:02 <fresheyeball> http://ix.io/3wGF
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